Hooters credit card got me FIRED?!

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Postby dfm990 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:46 pm

LOL this feels like reading a jerry springer episode! SUE! lol
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Postby DEAFIL » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:04 pm

Holy moly!

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Postby Capital » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:03 am

Money card wrote:I believe this is ***ual harrasment.


I'm sorry, but from tcoops's account of the event, this does not sound anything like ***ual harassment. I would advise tcoop to pursue a wrongful termination suit, however.

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Postby i_t_man » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:03 pm

Not trying to be a snob here honestly but if you whip out a Hooter's credit card in front of your female boss and tell her how hot the waitresses are....You were begging her to react.

That being said, it was wrong of you to be fired but seriously, a Hooter's card? At a business lunch?

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Postby Money card » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:44 pm

Capital wrote:I'm sorry, but from tcoops's account of the event, this does not sound anything like ***ual harassment. I would advise tcoop to pursue a wrongful termination suit, however.


so what would you call it? a employee 2 co workers a FEMALE supervisor head out for a business convention, they stop off for lunch 1 of the employees pays the bill using a hooters credit card, the female boss talks snarly to her employee, when they get back from there confrence she calls him into her office and fires him for using that card what isn't ***ual harrasment about this situation?

if the employee had used a different mastercard would the employee havebeen fired?

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Postby Money card » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:55 pm

i_t_man wrote:Not trying to be a snob here honestly but if you whip out a Hooter's credit card in front of your female boss and tell her how hot the waitresses are....You were begging her to react.

That being said, it was wrong of you to be fired but seriously, a Hooter's card? At a business lunch?


I can understand because they were at a business lunch. the female supervisor could say something like you can't use your hooters card.

now if it was a personal lunch the day before the conference, then this is a different situation. but you can't be fired for this.

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Postby frazell » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:10 am

Money card wrote:I can understand because they were at a business lunch. the female supervisor could say something like you can't use your hooters card.

now if it was a personal lunch the day before the conference, then this is a different situation. but you can't be fired for this.


Depends on your state. PA, like a good number of states, are AT WILL employment states. This means you can be fired for anything, including wearing a color shirt that your boss found out he didn't like on his drive to work that morning.

In many circles Hooters is lumped in alongside strip clubs so I think pulling it out at a business lunch was just a bone headed move. Be careful suing though as you could get hit with a counter suit that showing your hooters card was ***ual harrasement by your boss.

Sounds like you don't really have a case though and should learn a lesson in being a bit smarter when out professionally.

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Postby sticf » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:25 pm

Many companies I have worked for do not draw a line between "work" and "personal" time when it comes to employee interaction. An example, if I am out at happy hour (not a company function) and said something that was not appropriate to a coworker. That coworker could report me to HR. My company does not care if it happened at a bar and not on company time. They would take action just like I had said it in the middle of the day at work.

You can try to argue that what you do on "your time" is none of the company's business. However, the company will counter argue that you have damaged your professional relationship with the coworker who reported you. Depending on the situation you could be reprimanded, sent to counseling or fired.

May not seem fair, but hey life is not fair.

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Postby JNK » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:26 am

You whipped out your HOOTERS credit card at a COMPANY lunch. What exactly did you expect to happen?

Last I heard, surfing the web, perusing printed personal material, playing games, etc ON COMPANY TIME - a billion personal emails, minesweeper - is reason enough to be fired or at least disciplined because it is not related to your job and it is unprofessional behavior. When you're employed, you're told what is and what is not acceptable behavior and basically - and unless stated otherwise, non-work activities and hobbies are to stay out of work and business.

Hooters is hardly softcore - much less hardcore - but the whole 'you like the girls there' statement says and tells everything and where your boss really shouldn't be concerning herself with what you like or don't like in your personal time, you DID just say in front of her during a business lunch that you like looking at the hot female hosts at Hooters restaurants which is like having on display on your computer screen at your work a desktop wallpaper of your favorite Hooters girl in her uniform.

You don't have to shout out, "I THINK THEY'RE HOT!" when your actions have already spoken for you.

That said, I don't think it's fair that your job was suddenly terminated like that without some other prior disciplinary action beforehand, but at the same point, I can imagine that anyone who is looking at this case will say the same thing a lot of people in this thread have already said about what you did being simply unprofessional and reputation-damaging to the company and potentially insulting to the women present at the table.

Off-color jokes aren't allowed at most workplaces that I know of - no matter how much in-jest they are.

The same is true for talking to a co-worker - regardless of their gender and your gender - in a way that could possibly be construed as harassment.

If all of this happened away from business/work and your boss HAPPENED to accidentally chance on your paying for a meal with your Hooters credit card, then s/he would/should (in my opinion) have no right to say anything aside from, "Please don't use this card to pay for business meals."

But it happened during a business/work lunch and your boss didn't accidentally chance upon your credit card when it fell out of your wallet - you whipped it out in front of them and that makes a big difference.
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