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Postby jlam572 » Mon May 12, 2014 12:24 pm

Thanks for the advice guys. I wouldn't have included her ethnicity except that I should have added that all of her personal calls are in Vietnamese...and no one else in the office speaks Vietnamese. So she very well could be having a loud annoying conversation about people here in the office and we wouldn't know about it. Its not just the language thing either, when she speaks English shes annoying and her voice is shrieking. Thanks for not going overboard about the Vietnamese thing. Sorry if I offended some of you guys. Im Chinese, so its not like im some white dude hating on Asians.

Interrupting her calls sounds like a good idea. As much as I hate talking to that woman, I might start doing it. I recently started using the shredder by her desk only when shes on personal calls too...I look right at her and slowly shred a pile of papers one by one. Sometimes she mumbles something and then takes the call outside...other days she still sits there.

I spoke to the other RN on Friday and we are working out when the best times of the day, or the best days of the week to load her up with work. We usually give her a steady stream of work to do...but I started saving it up and piling it on in big chunks. On Friday I gave her a TON of work to do about an hour before she went home. I knew she couldn't finish it, and I was hoping that she would be dreading coming into work today because of the pile of crap that is still on her desk.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon May 12, 2014 12:30 pm

She mumbles? By chance does she have a red Swingline stapler?


You could do your best Bill Lumbergh, and move her to the basement and ask her to get a can of pesticide and take care of the roach problem. Yeah, that'd be great.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Mon May 12, 2014 1:16 pm

jlam572 wrote:Thanks for the advice guys. I wouldn't have included her ethnicity except that I should have added that all of her personal calls are in Vietnamese...and no one else in the office speaks Vietnamese. So she very well could be having a loud annoying conversation about people here in the office and we wouldn't know about it. Its not just the language thing either, when she speaks English shes annoying and her voice is shrieking. Thanks for not going overboard about the Vietnamese thing. Sorry if I offended some of you guys. Im Chinese, so its not like im some white dude hating on Asians.

Interrupting her calls sounds like a good idea. As much as I hate talking to that woman, I might start doing it. I recently started using the shredder by her desk only when shes on personal calls too...I look right at her and slowly shred a pile of papers one by one. Sometimes she mumbles something and then takes the call outside...other days she still sits there.

I spoke to the other RN on Friday and we are working out when the best times of the day, or the best days of the week to load her up with work. We usually give her a steady stream of work to do...but I started saving it up and piling it on in big chunks. On Friday I gave her a TON of work to do about an hour before she went home. I knew she couldn't finish it, and I was hoping that she would be dreading coming into work today because of the pile of crap that is still on her desk.


That's perfect. Now look into her contract and see what she is EXPECTED to do. Remind her of the clause as you pile the work on. Tell her if she doesnt meet that expectation which she has willingly signed on for, then she may be cited which will go on her record as not meeting performance requirements. Basically, keep building the strikes against her in a formal matter.

Now, I am a devious guy so I don't expect you to do the same BUT I would go as far as getting my friends to come in, rattle her cage and file complaints.

I'll do anything to get her record looking like a serial killer's.

When she leaves to take calls, record the time and length of her departure from her desk. You need this to prove it was not break time!
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Postby jlam572 » Mon May 12, 2014 4:03 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:She mumbles? By chance does she have a red Swingline stapler?


You could do your best Bill Lumbergh, and move her to the basement and ask her to get a can of pesticide and take care of the roach problem. Yeah, that'd be great.


HAHA actually my boss was contemplating moving her into the broom closet and setting up a desk for her. NOT KIDDING. Hes lucky though, his assistant is pleasant and works hard.
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Postby jlam572 » Mon May 12, 2014 4:04 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:That's perfect. Now look into her contract and see what she is EXPECTED to do. Remind her of the clause as you pile the work on. Tell her if she doesnt meet that expectation which she has willingly signed on for, then she may be cited which will go on her record as not meeting performance requirements. Basically, keep building the strikes against her in a formal matter.

Now, I am a devious guy so I don't expect you to do the same BUT I would go as far as getting my friends to come in, rattle her cage and file complaints.

I'll do anything to get her record looking like a serial killer's.

When she leaves to take calls, record the time and length of her departure from her desk. You need this to prove it was not break time!


Im trying to talk others into complaining as well but its hard because they are scared to take a stand. Good advice though.
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Postby FastSRT8 » Mon May 12, 2014 6:15 pm

OK, this is what I tell people who are 'afraid' to take a stand. If you are too scared to say something, then stop complaining about her as you don't have the right to complain.
jlam572 wrote:Im trying to talk others into complaining as well but its hard because they are scared to take a stand. Good advice though.
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Postby jlam572 » Mon May 12, 2014 7:02 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:OK, this is what I tell people who are 'afraid' to take a stand. If you are too scared to say something, then stop complaining about her as you don't have the right to complain.


Hope you don't mind if I use this at the next coordinators meeting when people are complaining about her lol.
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Postby Battery111 » Mon May 12, 2014 7:33 pm

As a government employee I can tell you we probably have the hardest time getting rid of the dead weight. I can only second that documenting every single little thing is key. Once you have a packet an inch or two thick of documentation about incompetence it's very difficult to argue the termination is not justified.

Issue is that you have to be very careful to apply standards evenly. You can't call her out on every little thing if other people do some of the same things and you let it slide.
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Postby jlam572 » Tue May 13, 2014 11:52 am

Battery111 wrote:As a government employee I can tell you we probably have the hardest time getting rid of the dead weight. I can only second that documenting every single little thing is key. Once you have a packet an inch or two thick of documentation about incompetence it's very difficult to argue the termination is not justified.

Issue is that you have to be very careful to apply standards evenly. You can't call her out on every little thing if other people do some of the same things and you let it slide.


Yeah I thought this might be the case. Example: her lunch breaks...we all kinda take "about" an hour but sometimes she straight up leaves for 1.5 hours or takes two lunch breaks in the day. Im worried about adding that to the list of issues because it might mean that the rest of us get less leniency
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Postby FastSRT8 » Tue May 13, 2014 1:41 pm

jlam572 wrote:Yeah I thought this might be the case. Example: her lunch breaks...we all kinda take "about" an hour but sometimes she straight up leaves for 1.5 hours or takes two lunch breaks in the day. Im worried about adding that to the list of issues because it might mean that the rest of us get less leniency


ADD it. BUT for the time you are nailer her @ss to the wall, make sure you are beyond approach. Never mind the others... the issue is with her. IF she says anything, it's her word against yours. WIth a file of strikes against her, you can counter her claims are a wild lash against you.

IF your timesheet is clean and you maintain an hour lunch while this is all happening, then you can tell her to f-off.

IF she tried to point to others, then you give the 'others' a reason to help you bury her with more violations.

Divide and conquer. Don;t give her alies.
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