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Postby linuxmachine » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:45 pm

MB131174 wrote:The only thing you need to use BBM is the app, an email address and a smartphone. I think a lot of people don't understand BBM because they've never used it. It has some major strengths that other messenger apps do not have:

1) Can be used on virtually any platform, whether it be: iOS, Android, BlackBerry and I think (but not 100% sure) Windows. I'm a huge iOS fan, but I will be the first to agree that iMessage is only good if the other person has an Apple device. I can't iMessage my buddy who has an Android. My cousin who is pro-Android can't use Gchat with our grandmother because she doesn't have a google account. Yet all 3 of us can use BBM. BBM solves the 1 messenger for all devices regardless of whether it was made by the ghost of Steve Jobs or a green machine, etc.
2) You don't have to give out ANY private information (i.e.: phone number, email address). This is where whatsapp falls short. If I want a buyer I do business with to message me on my mobile, I have to give them my number (which I may not want them to have!) or on iMessage I'd have to give out an email address I may not want to give out. Giving out a PIN keeps you pretty private.
3) You can seamlessly move from platform to platform. Sick of iOs and wanna use Android? No problem. BBM will follow you and your contacts will never know (unless you tell them) that you switched. I'd love to try the Note 3, but, I'm so engrained in the iMessage right now (due to lack of BBM contacts) that I can't move from it. (Some of my contacts are overseas).
4) It's not owned by evil Facebook.


#1 is user specific. You can't iMessage your buddy on android because he doesn't use iMessage. I cannot BBM somebody if that person doesn't use BBM. It's the same problem, except within your social circle, everyone uses BBM. It's the same way if I use gchat and all of my friends use gchat. That is a natural advantage baked into your social circle, and not an advantage of BBM in and of itself. I just don't know why there is an argument of being 'locked in' for any other platform when you must do the same to use BBM between yourself and family/friends.


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Postby MB131174 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:05 pm

linuxmachine wrote:#1 is user specific. You can't iMessage your buddy on android because he doesn't use iMessage. I cannot BBM somebody if that person doesn't use BBM. It's the same problem, except within your social circle, everyone uses BBM. It's the same way if I use gchat and all of my friends use gchat. That is a natural advantage baked into your social circle, and not an advantage of BBM in and of itself. I just don't know why there is an argument of being 'locked in' for any other platform when you must do the same to use BBM between yourself and family/friends.


What you're not understanding is: someone using android CANNOT download/use iMessage, but ANYONE can use BBM regardless of their mobile device.
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Postby linuxmachine » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:56 pm

MB131174 wrote:What you're not understanding is: someone using android CANNOT download/use iMessage, but ANYONE can use BBM regardless of their mobile device.


That is a fair point, but why stop at iMessage to make the sales pitch? You can use gchat on iphones, as well as BB and Windows phones, which BB does not have yet (but is slated to come out soon).

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Postby augiedog » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:13 pm

MB131174 wrote:What you're not understanding is: someone using android CANNOT download/use iMessage, but ANYONE can use BBM regardless of their mobile device.


I'm very happy with the basic functions iMessage provides. If someone doesn't have it then they can always send me a text message. I don't really know anyone who uses BBM anyway... so it is a social group thing as linuxmachine has said.

Can Android do MMS group chats with iPhones? Or is that an iPhone only thing?
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Postby MB131174 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:18 pm

linuxmachine wrote:That is a fair point, but why stop at iMessage to make the sales pitch? You can use gchat on iphones, as well as BB and Windows phones, which BB does not have yet (but is slated to come out soon).


Yes, but Gchat requires a gmail address. Not everyone uses gmail. The only requirement for BBM is a valid email address, even if it's @sinshack.com or whatever. You can use whatever operating system you want, any email provider you want and never have to give out your email or phone number to use BBM. That's why I'm saying BBM is an underrated messenger.
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Postby MB131174 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:20 pm

augiedog wrote:I'm very happy with the basic functions iMessage provides. If someone doesn't have it then they can always send me a text message. I don't really know anyone who uses BBM anyway... so it is a social group thing as linuxmachine has said.

Can Android do MMS group chats with iPhones? Or is that an iPhone only thing?



It's not necessarily a social group thing... It can be used for messaging between 2 people. For example: if I want to post a way for someone to get ahold of me immediately if I'm selling something on Craigslist, I'd gladly post my BBM PIN, but I would NEVER post my phone number or email address there. BBM is private, secure, reliable and easy to use.
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Postby JoDa » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:46 pm

Android can do group MMS with iPhones, augie. It gets more complicated when you add pictures or video, but that only takes the *Android* user understanding their phone (the slideshow/video function is a little less than seamless if you get the media from an iPhone). I group chat with a mixed group all the time (my softball team) and we don't have problems with basic messages.
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Postby JoDa » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:49 pm

Also, MB, wait until you can get the Note 3 with KitKat from your provider before trying it out. Some have it now, some don't. The current version of Jellybean on Verizon is a battery hog (I have the Galaxy S4). Rumor has it that KitKat fixed that problem...
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Postby MB131174 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:23 pm

JoDa wrote:Also, MB, wait until you can get the Note 3 with KitKat from your provider before trying it out. Some have it now, some don't. The current version of Jellybean on Verizon is a battery hog (I have the Galaxy S4). Rumor has it that KitKat fixed that problem...


I'm too deep into the whole Apple ecosystem to switch now. The ONLY reason I would really want a Note is the screen size. Other than that, no thanks. I'll continue to pay homage to the late SJ.
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Postby mrow » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:44 pm

MB131174 wrote:I'm too deep into the whole Apple ecosystem to switch now. The ONLY reason I would really want a Note is the screen size. Other than that, no thanks. I'll continue to pay homage to the late SJ.


Should the rumors prove true, and there is a lot of evidence pointing to it being true, the next iPhone should have much larger screen sizes. There are rumors of a 4.7/5.1/5.5 inch screen. The 5.5 inch is too big for my tates but I'd love a 4.7 inch.



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