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Postby FastSRT8 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:51 pm

MB131174 wrote:If we could get MemberSince99 to join us, we could even start a BBM CCF chat group.

However, I wonder if MemberSince99 deletes apps as quickly as he opens & closes cards?


I'm up for this for fun.

MemberSince99... we need to straighten out that chap!!
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Postby JoDa » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:24 pm

+1 for Google Talk (formerly GChat). Yes, I have an Android, but it can just as easily be downloaded onto an iPhone or (gasp) BB or Windows phone. And it comes right through on your GMail from any browser if you're at your desk, home computer, whatever, without a download. I chatted with a friend over it for hours the other night. He's halfway around the world, and our baseball teams are playing each other at a time when we could both watch. So we chit-chatted while his guys demolished mine, and when I needed to refresh the beer, I just moved the convo over to my phone while I walked over to the corner store.
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Postby MB131174 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:34 pm

That's all fine and dandy, but, what about those w/o a Google account? The nice thing about BBM is you need 2 things: 1) a valid email address from ANY email provider and 2) a smartphone. I for one prefer apps that don't lock you into a certain ecosystem and can be as fluid as you are. If I wanted to jump ship to Android (clearly after I've had a massive seizure) I could move my BBM account over to android without changing email address, etc. I also like how it's not tied to a phone number. All it uses is a PIN.
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Postby FastSRT8 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:06 pm

MB131174 wrote:That's all fine and dandy, but, what about those w/o a Google account? The nice thing about BBM is you need 2 things: 1) a valid email address from ANY email provider and 2) a smartphone. I for one prefer apps that don't lock you into a certain ecosystem and can be as fluid as you are. If I wanted to jump ship to Android (clearly after I've had a massive seizure) I could move my BBM account over to android without changing email address, etc. I also like how it's not tied to a phone number. All it uses is a PIN.


This is why BBM IMO is far superior to the other offerings. BUT because it's a Blackberry 'product', it gets bashed before people really try it. Too bad for those that don't give it a go.

It truly is a great platform. I have used it with much success communicating with contacts to and from all over the world. The video chat is much more stable than FaceTime or Skype which skips and cuts off.
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Postby JoDa » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:54 am

For me, personally, I guess I just don't have a lot of contacts that don't have an existing Google account. I admit I haven't tried Blackberry messaging, but I've *also* never been asked to sign up for it. I suppose if someone important asked me to give it a try, I'd try it, but can I use it WITHOUT A DOWNLOAD on a computer? It's not like I can just download whatever I want on my work computer, and Google Talk suits that perfectly for me. I log into my email and I'm good to go...
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Postby JoDa » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:04 am

Also, I don't wade into the Android versus iPhone wars too much...they both have their pros and cons and I happen to like Androids more, except... My phone will never be stolen by some thug. We have a massive snatch and run theft problem here for small electronics...but it's all Apple products. I've had a shady character get too close for comfort, see I'm poking around on an Android, and move on. I'm typing this on a Macbook and watching TV via an HP desktop tower, so I truly, truly believe in "each where it works best," but the great functionality and integration combined with a near-zero theft risk makes me an Android girl for my phone...
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Postby FutureBillionaire » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:16 am

I used to swear by bbm. It was the best messaging app, period. As a matter of fact, Blackberry is till the best email solution I've ever used, and it's not close.

I used to be on my Crackberry all the time. Delivery and read receipts are fantastic, and better than sms.

I don't have as many bbm contacts anymore, since RIM waited too long to release the app. I'd still use it if I did.
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Postby augiedog » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:35 pm

It's another app to download and keep up with its notifications! I don't need an app just to keep up with one person who may be using it. I like how iMessages is integrated with the Messaging app on the iPhone. I don't even like having Facebook Messenger installed (IM never really worked in the Facebook app too well to begin with anyway).

You don't have to give away your phone number either, as you can give away an email address. And number blocking is part of the system too. iMessage also works on my laptop too so I don't always have to use my phone. Of course my friends and family have to have an iPhone... but that does seem to be the case very often. I don't even send over 200 SMS anymore when I used to send around 3000 monthly just by my messages switching over to iMessage.
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Postby linuxmachine » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:29 pm

MB131174 wrote:That's all fine and dandy, but, what about those w/o a Google account? The nice thing about BBM is you need 2 things: 1) a valid email address from ANY email provider and 2) a smartphone. I for one prefer apps that don't lock you into a certain ecosystem and can be as fluid as you are. If I wanted to jump ship to Android (clearly after I've had a massive seizure) I could move my BBM account over to android without changing email address, etc. I also like how it's not tied to a phone number. All it uses is a PIN.


This isn't so much a 'which chat platform is superior' question, since I know you're a huge fan, and we could get locked into mortal forum combat over this, but from an 'ecosystem' perspective...

It's my understanding that in order to talk to people on BBM, you also need to install a BBM client. If I am forced to do this, how is it different from being 'locked in' by creating a google account to talk to other people on gchat? Both platforms are domain specific, and you need to buy in in order to talk with friends on that platform. They are the same thing conceptually, isn't it?

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Postby MB131174 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:26 pm

linuxmachine wrote:This isn't so much a 'which chat platform is superior' question, since I know you're a huge fan, and we could get locked into mortal forum combat over this, but from an 'ecosystem' perspective...

It's my understanding that in order to talk to people on BBM, you also need to install a BBM client. If I am forced to do this, how is it different from being 'locked in' by creating a google account to talk to other people on gchat? Both platforms are domain specific, and you need to buy in in order to talk with friends on that platform. They are the same thing conceptually, isn't it?


The only thing you need to use BBM is the app, an email address and a smartphone. I think a lot of people don't understand BBM because they've never used it. It has some major strengths that other messenger apps do not have:

1) Can be used on virtually any platform, whether it be: iOS, Android, BlackBerry and I think (but not 100% sure) Windows. I'm a huge iOS fan, but I will be the first to agree that iMessage is only good if the other person has an Apple device. I can't iMessage my buddy who has an Android. My cousin who is pro-Android can't use Gchat with our grandmother because she doesn't have a google account. Yet all 3 of us can use BBM. BBM solves the 1 messenger for all devices regardless of whether it was made by the ghost of Steve Jobs or a green machine, etc.
2) You don't have to give out ANY private information (i.e.: phone number, email address). This is where whatsapp falls short. If I want a buyer I do business with to message me on my mobile, I have to give them my number (which I may not want them to have!) or on iMessage I'd have to give out an email address I may not want to give out. Giving out a PIN keeps you pretty private.
3) You can seamlessly move from platform to platform. Sick of iOs and wanna use Android? No problem. BBM will follow you and your contacts will never know (unless you tell them) that you switched. I'd love to try the Note 3, but, I'm so engrained in the iMessage right now (due to lack of BBM contacts) that I can't move from it. (Some of my contacts are overseas).
4) It's not owned by evil Facebook.
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