whit wrote:it's def American culture but it's not as simple as that ; because you have a country made up of immigrants, of past and present, as well as those so deeply inrooted that they don't consider themselves anything but American
here's an example:
in Hong Kong, when I visit, no matter which part, new territory or the usual tourist infected spots, there are people waiting in a line, orderly, for public transportation. old, young, middle age, all ages.
they calmly in a line get on.
here, in America, we have buses that will have a method for one to pay (tag your pass) in the front and the back doors. hell, we have people getting on and off both in front doors and back doors.
the same people who you'd see in Hong Kong (Asian older women and men) that would be waiting in line, with the first come first serve
has adapted to the American mentality here of shoving their way to the front. maybe in the beginning when they first arrived they thought to get on orderly, but I think after observing how others get on
their mentality is why bother
and they follow suit
that's just one example but I truly believe that over time people, would generally adapt to the "American" culture or thinking, even if they grew up in another culture like those elderly people who can't speak a lick of English and most likely came here in their late sixties or so
a few may hold strong to their beliefs
but for most part they adapt, to some things..
Queuing up presents a special case: (1) The English (and those influenced by them) are the most orderly when it comes to lining up in a queue. (2) How orderly people behave in line depends on the venue- as good as the British are at queuing up, you're going to see something totally different waiting in line outside a Manchester U game vs. lining up to get into the V&A museum.
In the case of Hong Kong you have the fact that British culture is still persuasive- you have that sense that people have adopted various British cultural norms. And comparing people lining up for a bus in Hong Kong vs. somewhere in the U.S. is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. Everyone probably rides the buses in Hong Kong because it is a densely populated area; in the US- public transit is the main mode of transport of the dregs of society- not saying that everyone who rides the bus is "bad", but those who are criminals, in a gang, on drugs primarily use public transit. Once again, not saying if you ride a bus, you are one of those people- there are those who do so to be "green", because it is more economical, etc. But if you've ridden any of the larger public transit systems in the US you know it's true.
And oddly enough, Americans are probably slightly less rude and disorderly waiting in line that the average nationality out there. Go to any DIsney Park and you'll see that's true. We may not be as orderly as the British, Australians, or Canadians, but we beat people from the Middle East and Southern Europe hands down. That may be a stereotype and definitely isn't true with everyone, but it is very much a cultural thing...
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