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Postby JoDa » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:17 am

Hmmm...I guess I never thought to do that, but the only "flashy" thing I own is a Tiffany bracelet, which usually stays home because I don't need the worry of losing it (Customs never even crossed my mind...losing it did). Sure, I have a smart phone and nice laptop, but a cursory glance at the files on them (or even their overall physical condition) would reveal them to be far more than a few days old.

I guess I got spoiled because my first dozen or so border crossings (except for a few trips to Canada as a kid way back when you didn't need a passport for that) were on an official passport, and Customs agents tend to be pretty nice to us. The Canadian agent wasn't remotely concerned about what I had with me, just that I was traveling alone, even though I was able to answer her questions (where are you staying, when are you leaving, etc.) and produce receipts on my phone for things like my TEMPORARY lodging and return ticket back to the US. I felt like screaming "I WANT TO COME INTO YOUR COUNTRY AND SPEND SOME MONEY FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS! IS THAT A PROBLEM?"

Oh...I just remembered this! My job involves Customs from time-to-time, and a couple years back I spent 6 months liaising with Canadian Customs on a joint issue. I NAME DROPPED the dude I worked with, and she STILL was like "that's nice...so WHY are you traveling alone, again?" Britches, meet a behind too big for you.
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Postby FastSRT8 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:27 am

That's exactly my point. THEY are NOT my favorite people. When I have to deal with them, it's always on a matter of fact basis. I speak with backup in hand. I don't say anything to them that I can't back up or prove immediately.

I plan to be 5 steps ahead of them and anticipate their next moves.

Is this overkill, YES. It is necessary, NO. But I value my time and any additional minute spent with them is a waste of my precious time.


JoDa wrote:Hmmm...I guess I never thought to do that, but the only "flashy" thing I own is a Tiffany bracelet, which usually stays home because I don't need the worry of losing it (Customs never even crossed my mind...losing it did). Sure, I have a smart phone and nice laptop, but a cursory glance at the files on them (or even their overall physical condition) would reveal them to be far more than a few days old.

I guess I got spoiled because my first dozen or so border crossings (except for a few trips to Canada as a kid way back when you didn't need a passport for that) were on an official passport, and Customs agents tend to be pretty nice to us. The Canadian agent wasn't remotely concerned about what I had with me, just that I was traveling alone, even though I was able to answer her questions (where are you staying, when are you leaving, etc.) and produce receipts on my phone for things like my TEMPORARY lodging and return ticket back to the US. I felt like screaming "I WANT TO COME INTO YOUR COUNTRY AND SPEND SOME MONEY FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS! IS THAT A PROBLEM?"

Oh...I just remembered this! My job involves Customs from time-to-time, and a couple years back I spent 6 months liaising with Canadian Customs on a joint issue. I NAME DROPPED the dude I worked with, and she STILL was like "that's nice...so WHY are you traveling alone, again?" Britches, meet a behind too big for you.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:04 am

You know you are right we really are a bunch of assholes.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:51 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:You know you are right we really are a bunch of assholes.


Not everyone... I stated that earlier. I said MOST. There are always the exception to the rule to which I am safely assuming you belong to; if indeed you are a customs officer.

IF you are, then I hope your ethics and sense of reasonability can rub off on the rest of your co-workers who I feel are generally insecure and abuse their powers to try and make themselves appear to be better than the rest of us. I think it is safe to assume many of them are just downright jealous of those of us who work hard and make it in this world.

I feel in general, Canadians are not accepting of 'class' levels and keep pushing the agenda of equality for everyone... everyone has to be the same. No social classes. I've got a trivial but yet good example of this. Have a look at the boarding system here in airports. Yes, we have priority boarding for business class (Canadian airlines don't have first class) passengers BUT they don't segregate how we get into the plane. Everyone files through the same door.

NOW... look at how the rest of the world does this (Asian and Europeans). First/Business Class have their OWN walkway to their cabins. No crowds to jamb pass you as you try and get comfy. That's the right way to do it. Look at how Air Canada does it here in Canada... all through one gangway please. Now, to their credit they at least do it right when one departs from Hong Kong. They believe it or not... use the segregated entry like everyone else...why..because the clientele will scream bloody murder.
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Postby JoDa » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Is it maybe the type of plane they're using? 777s, 747s, and *maybe* 767s and 757s (IIRC, they do) have a door up front and one at the front of economy. The Airbus equivalents are probably the same. But smaller planes don't have that configuration. I know in A320s, etc., there's no "economy" door, so everyone has to come through the front door. It could also depend on whether the airport has dual jetways. I guess I never thought much about it, even when I've been up front and they send everyone through. No matter how they load people using a jetway, it beats using the stairs (I've twice disembarked from 320s using the stairs in Vietnam...once from the rear of the plane...and done it numerous times on commuter jets in/out of DCA).
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Postby JoDa » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:46 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:You gotta love the ones who are going to pay with a check. They stand there motionless checkbook in hand, until given the total by the clerk, THEN they start to fill it out with things they could have already put in like Payee, date, signature, etc. I've wondered what goes through their minds as they do that but maybe I don't want to know.


Back in my retail days, I worked in a couple stores where we had the ability to have the register print the check for the customer. It was long enough ago that checks were far more common. About half the check-writers were really cool about it and liked the feature (as soon as they pulled out their checkbook, I'd say "hold off on filling that out, I can have the register print the store name and amount on it for you!" very cheerfully, then once I printed it, I'd hand the check back and ask them to confirm the information and sign it), the other half were VERY unpleasant to me because of my time-saving suggestion, insisting I was going to "rip them off" somehow. Knowing that most register systems have this feature, after getting trapped behind a slow-as-molasses check writer a few weeks ago, I asked the cashier in our grocery store if their registers had that feature. He said "yeah, but I never offer it because people scream and swear at me when I do." Lesson: people STILL using checks are to be regarded as jerks unless otherwise proven.

Note that printing the check, having them sign it, and then running it took only about 5 seconds longer than running a credit card, so, yes, it was very time-saving over having them write the check.
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Postby jlam572 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:25 pm

My worst nightmare is to be in safeway and get behind a old lady writing a check or using all change to pay for her groceries. I try to make it a habit to get behind other dudes shopping alone, preferably around my age or younger...less likely to use change or pay with check. :)

JoDa wrote:Back in my retail days, I worked in a couple stores where we had the ability to have the register print the check for the customer. It was long enough ago that checks were far more common. About half the check-writers were really cool about it and liked the feature (as soon as they pulled out their checkbook, I'd say "hold off on filling that out, I can have the register print the store name and amount on it for you!" very cheerfully, then once I printed it, I'd hand the check back and ask them to confirm the information and sign it), the other half were VERY unpleasant to me because of my time-saving suggestion, insisting I was going to "rip them off" somehow. Knowing that most register systems have this feature, after getting trapped behind a slow-as-molasses check writer a few weeks ago, I asked the cashier in our grocery store if their registers had that feature. He said "yeah, but I never offer it because people scream and swear at me when I do." Lesson: people STILL using checks are to be regarded as jerks unless otherwise proven.

Note that printing the check, having them sign it, and then running it took only about 5 seconds longer than running a credit card, so, yes, it was very time-saving over having them write the check.
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Postby JoDa » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:39 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:You know you are right we really are a bunch of assholes.


My asshole side is on full display right now because...IT'S CHERRY BLOSSOM TIME! I'm putting on my bitchface every time I leave my office (right on the Mall), and I'm not going to apologize for it until these people learn to behave. On Sunday, I had to cross the Mall on foot to get to the Metro, and this major asshole ACTUALLY TRIPPED ME as I started to cross the street. Why? Because "jaywalking sets a bad example for my kids and you deserved that." He actually said that to me as I was lying in the STREET writhing in pain because I came down on my bad shoulder (I did look, and traffic was clear...I may jaywalk, but I don't have a death wish). F all these people.
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Postby nismoZtuner » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:41 pm

JoDa wrote:My asshole side is on full display right now because...IT'S CHERRY BLOSSOM TIME! I'm putting on my bitchface every time I leave my office (right on the Mall), and I'm not going to apologize for it until these people learn to behave. On Sunday, I had to cross the Mall on foot to get to the Metro, and this major asshole ACTUALLY TRIPPED ME as I started to cross the street. Why? Because "jaywalking sets a bad example for my kids and you deserved that." He actually said that to me as I was lying in the STREET writhing in pain because I came down on my bad shoulder (I did look, and traffic was clear...I may jaywalk, but I don't have a death wish). F all these people.



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Postby JoDa » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:56 pm

If it didn't hurt so much (beyond coming down on the bum shoulder, I have some nice road rash), and the light didn't change about 5 seconds after I hit the ground, I would have called the police over his ASSAULT on me. Make no mistake, he caused me bodily harm intentionally and not in self-defense, and that's assault. He even admitted as much in front of at least 50 people. I will say that this was a first. Sure, I've had other people yell at me for jaywalking when they followed me across the street and really didn't have time to make it, or their kid started to follow me because they can't be bothered to hold their hand or teach them not to follow strangers, but tripping me and then taunting me is a new low.

It seems to get worse every year. Right before that, someone walking near me got overly upset because a FRISBEE from a nearby game floated into their walking path and "that could have tripped me!" During times like these, I begin to believe that 90% of Americans should just never leave their house...they're clearly not fit for civil society.
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