whit wrote:I'm okay, I met the founder of this huge bus line, and, the daughter happily carries a Birkin and has Cartier love bracelets dangling off her wrists.
But, I am comparing example of buses in San Francisco, which if you don't already know, is a city, combined with BART (which also holds same thing, people crowding to get in first), people here of all sorts do not need to drive
Whether it's the example I've given, or Caucasians, African Americans, Mexicans, doesn't matter..they all push, they all go up front or in the back, and they can be carrying middle class michael kors or used over and over paper bags from stores..
And again, that is just one example. Just like you have a different perspective..there are different examples.
Eta, I just realized the way my response was taken, through the answer you've given, obv it didn't come out right, or get read the way I wanted
whit wrote:But, I am comparing example of buses in San Francisco, which if you don't already know, is a city
otter wrote:I really don't have much experience with Bay Area Transportation- I guess I assumed it was Southern Cal you were talking about (LA is a whole different animal, though). By the way, I didn't mean anything racial by "dregs of society"... some of the trashiest people I've met on buses have been white.
But I do get what you are saying... people do tend to be pushy in the US nowadays. I think it's more a sign of how etiquette is becoming less and less important in the US. Look at people who are in a long line in fast food places and text the whole time in line and then when they get to the front have no clue what they want. The courteous thing to do would have been to decide before you're at the front of the line so those behind you don't have to wait as long...
I never professed to be a 'good' Canadian boy. I call a spade a spade and will tell someone to F-off if they truly deserve it.
The meek will not get ahead sadly.
otter wrote:Who says it has to turn into anything bad? This isn't myfico. Fast, djrez, and whit are people whose opinions I respect. I think I was honest, but I hope not disrespectful... if I was disrespectful, let me know and I will apologize or explain if I was somehow misunderstood...
djrez4 wrote:There is truth in the stereotype.
America cultivates a top-down, me-first culture. We idolize the financiers, the CEOs, and the sports and music stars and think that we can join their ranks with little effort. That cultural laziness spreads to daily behavior. If we can grab the first overhead bin, who cares if it inconveniences the next person. If a CEO can get away with billions in fraud, who cares about manners? The irony of nismoZtuner's post isn't lost. Then again, you aren't exactly espousing Canadian values with your reaction, Fast...
That said, it may surprise you to know that the great plurality of Americans still believe in being kind to other people. We just aren't known for it.
I'll turn the floor over to Member for what I'm sure will be a righteous rant....
darkguy2 wrote:You can see this mindset when people are waiting to board. People stand in the front by the gate entrance while they are the last to board so they make it harder for others to board. I have had people give me looks when I am standing in the front to board first since I always get priority boarding. I fly comfortably in a tshirt and shorts/jeans so I guess they assume I am not good enough for it and am trying to cut in line. I get to my seat and put my stuff directly above me and pop in the earbuds.