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Postby HookEmHorns » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:03 pm

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Postby JayS10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:55 am

I'm a stay at home son :cool:
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:54 am

JayS10 wrote:I'm a stay at home son :cool:



I envy you just envy you. I return to the utter insanity of the hell known as Corporate America on Thursday and I've been dreading it since last week. It's just no way to live your life, in a cubicle like a gerbil in a cage, getting jerked around between people playing politics trying to climb the ladder and insane upper management making dumb decisions and screaming how they have to have every new fad NOW or the company will go out of business (we could only wish....).


I just envy you man. I long to escape this place of suffering and torment before I end up as nuts as they are.


To anyone thinking of getting into IT please think long and hard. It really isn't all that. I sure as hell wish I hadn't gotten into it. You will go in all bright eyed and bushy tailed thinking hey you have talent, you can go in and shine, but that's not what it's all about. You're a lot better off kissing their behinds and playing politics and that means WAY more than anything you do in your code. Besides they won't actually LET you do anything out of fear of what you might do, God forbid you actually DID do some coding, who knows what might happen. Don't do it. Just take it from me, a guy who regrets he did it. I started off the same way I couldn't believe they were paying me to do this. Now most days I just long for death to escape it and wonder how much worse could homelessness be. Yep, you'll see if you don't take my word for it.

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Postby JayS10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:27 am

MemberSince99 wrote:I envy you just envy you. I return to the utter insanity of the hell known as Corporate America on Thursday and I've been dreading it since last week. It's just no way to live your life, in a cubicle like a gerbil in a cage, getting jerked around between people playing politics trying to climb the ladder and insane upper management making dumb decisions and screaming how they have to have every new fad NOW or the company will go out of business (we could only wish....).


I just envy you man. I long to escape this place of suffering and torment before I end up as nuts as they are.


To anyone thinking of getting into IT please think long and hard. It really isn't all that. I sure as hell wish I hadn't gotten into it. You will go in all bright eyed and bushy tailed thinking hey you have talent, you can go in and shine, but that's not what it's all about. You're a lot better off kissing their behinds and playing politics and that means WAY more than anything you do in your code. Besides they won't actually LET you do anything out of fear of what you might do, God forbid you actually DID do some coding, who knows what might happen. Don't do it. Just take it from me, a guy who regrets he did it. I started off the same way I couldn't believe they were paying me to do this. Now most days I just long for death to escape it and wonder how much worse could homelessness be. Yep, you'll see if you don't take my word for it.



Haha i wish I wasn't kidding. I'm In IT as well..... it has it's ups and downs, overall I can't complain too much. Going to school part time to finish up my CS degree. Eventually I'm going to switch into web development full time as opposed to doing it part time now outside of work.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:47 am

Let me guess - you haven't been doing this very long, right? I felt like you once, until years of experience taught me better. I learned (and this isn't specific to IT) that most meetings are a complete waste of your time, that you will be howled at constantly how they just HAVE to have the latest toy they want NOW NOW NOW NOW or the company will go under (even though that's what they've told you about EVERYTHING they've wanted for years now) and when you break your rear end to make it, then it sits....and sits....and sits...and maybe never gets used but somehow against all odds the business keeps going anyway. Yet the next toy they want you hear the same song and dance.


The best part is, you are reliant on another system for data for your website. All the customer sees is the website interface to that data. So when the system in question (an IBM I series or AS/400 as they are known) is having issues and it takes minutes to return the data to you, and your system times out, you get blamed because the error message is on the web page. You can show them the query is taking minutes to return thus causing a time out when it SHOULD run in 5 to 10 seconds but isn't due to issues on the 400, but it's still YOUR fault and YOU need to fix it. But you don't even have access to that 400 let alone know how to fix that.


I'm not kidding. This is the truth.
Do you really want this? I sure as hell don't. I've started hoping they offshore this crap. I can't stand the level of insanity. And this isn't just IT either but they care NOTHING whatsoever for you. You are a resource, a tool to be used, and if you weren't too big they'd flush you when they are done with you, but instead they can just downsize you and escort you to the door like a criminal in the "march of humiliation" in front of all your peers.


Yeah I LOVE Corporate America, insanity is a good thing, embrace it and be nuts just like us someday....

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Postby fL1Pm0d3 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:53 pm

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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:48 pm

You know I was going to tell you about status reports too and forgot.


You will be constantly bombarded with requests for status. You will be asked to estimate what you and what they don't know and you had best pad it, because they will change the requirements on you constantly making you do the same thing 3 times over, but they will still hold you to whatever you told them thinking you'd do it once and give them what they asked for. (Your problem is that you didn't read their mind and give them what they WANT not what they asked for).


When you give them an estimate, they will alternately try to bargain it lower with you, berate you as some kind of idiot that it can't be done faster, and appeal to your ego by saying surely a highly paid and skilled developer such as yourself can do better than that. The implication is you are either a liar (and you'd better learn to pad the estimate as I've said or you will lose your job when they change the project and you don't meet the original deadline) or an idiot. They will demand constant updates. In the worst case you'll be lucky if you can do any work, what with having to spend all your time justifying what you have already done, as well as updating the estimate of when the rest will be done.


Yeah, I've regretted many times ever getting into this field. I'm damn sorry I ever did it. I wish I had it to go back and do over again, because I'd go to tech school and get into plumbing or something with a future. IT has no future in the US it will all be farmed off to third world hellhole countries like manufacturing. I've never seen a case where this turned out well but they don't care about whether stuff actually works only how cheap it is. I think the execs and third world half trained monkeys pretty much deserve each other.


Just trying to spare anyone I can from my misery in this field. If I can sway you to look at something that is rewarding in terms of being something you enjoy doing every day instead of being something you dread going in to, it's worth the effort.

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Postby mathman314 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:34 pm

I'm a student (Math major, secondary ed cert). Currently employed by the Math Dept. @ UNT.
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Postby JayS10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:20 pm

I've been doing it for all of 6-7 years now. I've been working in corporate american for about 2-3 years and it took me about a year to see all the bull**** that people warned me about when I first started, much of what you have posted about. Prior to that I worked for a small company out of tech school to get my feet wet. We held some good contracts with various companies to support their IT infrastructure plus we developed some cool software as well.

Minus all the corporate bull**** we have to deal with ("do as I say, not as I do"), I'm Ok for now. We haven't been outsourced YET but I know its coming as many many other departments have been outsourced, both IT and non IT. It seems all they're doing is cut cut cut but our VP & CIO have the latest and greatest gadgets. They want us to spend the company money like its our own while they request the new ipads/macs/iphones spending company money.

Luckily for me I'm traveling all day and my bosses aren't micro managers. They do fire off an "urgent" request once in a while which is just code for "this is my friend or someone i want to suck up to/look good for so get it done NOW". I don't support anyone so I don't have to deal with people although I do help out people I know. I build/configure/install new hardware and some software for corporate employees. We have a help desk for all the support stuff and techs for break/fix.

But what can do you? I just do my job while finishing up school, can't let all the bull**** get to you. And if it gets to the point when i don't like it then I will quit and find something else to do. I've been looking to move on and have a few things in the works so only time will tell.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:53 pm

Good for you that's a great outlook you have.


I've also been looking, but I've come to learn that changing companies won't free you of the insanity, it's insane everywhere, just different amounts and types of insanity. So I would like to move on to something that at least is somewhat rewarding in terms of feeling good about what I do and a bit less insane but I'm dubious about it, and in this economy in my area, it's not a great time to be looking.


But I like your outlook good for you.



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