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Postby tvirk888 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:36 pm

I had the opposite happen to me. I was looking for a new receptionist and setup interviews with about 20 people. So I am at the office, waiting for the first person to show up, and they are a no show. Only 2 people out of the 20 were a no show. The others emailed me saying they had things come up, or they couldn't make it. So I gave them another chance, and none of them showed up.

It took me a while to find the right person, but it seems like even if you give someone a shot, they don't deliver what they said during the interview.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:09 pm

I guess that means both sides lie then. I've been lied to at plenty of interviews by employers. My favorite of all time is when they tell you they are going to make you an offer for much less than you had originally discussed but just come in and show them what you can do and they'll give you a raise soon enough. That's almost as bad as the check is in the mail. The best ones can tell you that with a straight face and look you in the eyes as they do it. I hate lies but you have to at least somewhat admire an expert liar like that. They should be politicians.

Another good one is we'll be in touch. All I can say is don't hold your breath. Depends on what they are touching I guess.

The last recruiter I emailed/spoke with on the phone set up a phone interview, then never called. I called her no answer. Next day I get an email my puppy had a problem sorry how about I call you tomorrow. Ok I will give anyone a second chance things happen I know. Again no call, no answer. Finally next day I hear yet another disaster occurred could they call me later. No call never another word despite me trying to contact them so at that point, I made a mental note of who to ignore should she ever contact me again (and that would be guts but some people have the nerve) and blocked her emails.

Some of these employers are just as bad. I guess the bottom line is, some PEOPLE are bad....

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Postby rhipsher » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:52 pm

Your in the wrong place then. Houston is booming and has been for the last 10 years. If your a CNC programmer/Machinist you will make 6 figures a year. If your a petroleum engineer or have anything to do with the oil or energy industry you are in big demand here. Also anything in the medical field is in serious demand unless of course Obama care survives.. If you don't have a good job here then you just don't want one. It might be time to relocate for a brighter future dude! :D

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Postby tvirk888 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:53 pm

I've been in a few situations like that when I applied for internships, and it's just ridiculous. People will be people I guess.
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Postby whit » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:07 pm

tvirk888 wrote:I had the opposite happen to me. I was looking for a new receptionist and setup interviews with about 20 people. So I am at the office, waiting for the first person to show up, and they are a no show. Only 2 people out of the 20 were a no show. The others emailed me saying they had things come up, or they couldn't make it. So I gave them another chance, and none of them showed up.

It took me a while to find the right person, but it seems like even if you give someone a shot, they don't deliver what they said during the interview.




I know what you mean, but unfortunately I have no desire to delegate or manage people--I do get stuck with colleagues and underlings that have great personality aka like to talk a lot..but when it comes to work it's horrible and the manager is worse, sucker if I ever saw one when it comes to letting people slide

by slide I mean they'll just sit there on their phone and not do the simple tasks like make coffee..instead the manager or I end up doing it

I've actually seen one of them whose only worked six months so far, contradict the manager and get away with it.

the biggest problem for small business owners according to survey done by bofa; which I feel like is accurate after talking with friends with their own businesses and after my own experience (so it feels more in general then just small businesses) is a lack of proactive thinking, poor time management and lack of enthusiastic is in top..

it's hard to find someone competent, with common sense, and good work ethics.

but what do you know, my definition of competent is different from theirs :p

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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:44 pm

rhipsher wrote:Your in the wrong place then. Houston is booming and has been for the last 10 years. If your a CNC programmer/Machinist you will make 6 figures a year. If your a petroleum engineer or have anything to do with the oil or energy industry you are in big demand here. Also anything in the medical field is in serious demand unless of course Obama care survives.. If you don't have a good job here then you just don't want one. It might be time to relocate for a brighter future dude! :D


Actually I'm in IT, a programmer, and I did exactly that at the end of the last time the economy was truly GOOD, in 2000. I relocated to Austin, where they couldn't hire people fast enough in the summer of 2000, then by Thanksgiving of that year, the layoffs started, and the tidal wave swept back out the other way and you could not find a job in Austin. At least I couldn't. I ended up coming back here to get a job, for a lot less money but it was a job.

So when it booms in Texas, it really booms, and when it busts it really busts. Not much in the middle it seems.

Does bring back memories like another lifetime of when the economy was actually doing well. Not the hype by the media trying to convince us it's good but when it was REALLY good as in you could go anywhere in the country and get a job. I don't think I'll ever live to see anything like that again, those times are gone for good.

I am glad to hear things are better there I figured eventually they would have to be. I wondered if things were better elsewhere in the country or if everything was as terrible as it is here.

And by the way losing my job there was the start of my credit being destroyed as I was in hock up to my eyeballs in credit card debt. That was the job they said come and show us what you can do and we'll give you a nice raise, which I never got of course, but being dumb I believed their word, and didn't realize how the economy was going to crash and how I'd be laid off with half the country by the next Thanksgiving (or what seemed like half the country). I had to break the lease on my apartment who sued me and got a judgement (before I knew better about how to handle those things) and it all was downhill from there. So some not too fond memories on the tail end of that. I never have any desire to carry a balance, but if I ever were to, I think remembering that would be a good thing to do!

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Postby JA. » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:49 pm

I would relocate in a heartbeat but the thing is since im still just a student and to be honest I dont have any professional skills nor a trophy resume.

Currently Im just living off of savings and cringe when its the time of month where I pay my rent, car loan, bills, etc...
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Postby MemberSince99 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:51 am

I hear you. Maybe you should look to relocate. Just keep enough in savings so you can move again if you have to. Nothing is really stable anymore, even more than the usual boom/bust cycles we have nothing is very stable.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:08 pm

Here's one hopefully you find amusing.

Today I get a call from a number I don't recognize so I let it go to voice mail. I listen and the accent is so thick you can cut it with a knife (Indian). He says his name is "Steve Jorgenson" or something like that. I was like yeah right and I'm Saddam Hussein. Then I immediately checked email and I'm waiting...BAM in it comes from "Steve Jorgenson". (If any of you are in IT you know exactly how this routine goes).

Of course he had an "URGENT" requirement. They always say they are URGENT, one can never claim they have no sense of urgency. I've actually responded to a few to the effect of if millions of lives aren't at stake here, I'm not sure it's "URGENT". They never seem to "get" the humor.

I won't bore you with the details of his "URGENT" requirement, which I could probably recite from memory having seen so much of that garbage, but in the numerous things he wanted from me, was one very specific entry which caught my eye, well two but the first was....are you ready....Date of Birth:. Yes, I will repeat that he flat out asked for Date of Birth. Last I knew, that is completely illegal to ask in the context of employment.

The next one that caught my eye was "Last 4 digits of SSN:". Um, sorry, but I am NOT giving that out to anyone who is not my employer or creditor and who has no legitimate need for that information, period. As many of you know, that and your date of birth and address are enough for your credit to be accessed. I felt like writing back what next do you want my latest credit score so you can figure out if my identity is worth stealing.

People, be careful. You get some guy who the first thing he tells you is a lie about what his name is, from some foreign country not exactly known to be friendly to the US, asking personal information about you that he has NO legitimate use for whatsoever that can be used to steal your identity, that to me is something I want to stay FAR away from. I do realize it's an employer's market, but think about this - if you identity gets stolen and your credit trashed how many of them are going to hire you then? Because most of them check that nowadays, at least in the IT world.

Oh and last but not least, while that question he asked is illegal, even if I knew who to report that to, I wouldn't be so naive to assume anything at all would be done about it. Just because something is the law, does not imply it will be enforced if there is a violation. And I'm not naive enough to believe they would have the least bit of interest in pursuing that particular violation. Now if I'm speeding that's another story....CHA CHING!

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Postby samhradh » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:07 am

If you're a student in Denver, CO I imagine you are taking classes at Metro? I highly recommend finding the right people on campus for assistance in job placement/resume review/interview prep. Many colleges offer these services for free. You should also look into getting a work/study job.
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