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Postby MemberSince99 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:51 pm

So, with my cable company raising the price for service by 20 dollars, I'm considering what my best move is. I really don't want to keep seeing it go up that much every 6 months or so. So I considered maybe TIVO would be a reasonable alternative.

As is I rent a DVR from my cable company. It's HD and has everything I need and works fine. It's 20 bucks a month, plus I pay for HD TV. I'm not really getting bent over yet by them but I just don't want to see it going up 20 bucks every 6 months that's what I consider getting bent over. (I wish I could get raises like that, or for that matter ANY raise).

Now TIVO can be had for 199 or 399. for what I'd want. THEN you gotta pay them by the month OR a huge 499 fee on top of that for lifetime service. If you take the monthly route, they require a year guarantee with a 175 early termination fee (what do they think they are Verizon? Oh Verizon would make it 375...) I think that's also getting bent over. On top of that I'd have to get or rent a cable card to put into the TIVO.

So, it doesn't seem as viable as I might have thought.

Am I missing something guys? As is I may stay with the cable company because TIVO seems like a lot more money and I'm not going to gain much for it. (It has more capacity but the system I rent from the cable company is adequate for my needs).

What would you guys do or what did I miss in your view?


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Postby djrez4 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:13 pm

1) Have you tried calling them and asking them for a promotion?

2) Assess your viewing habits. You may be able to get by with a Netflix or Hulu Plus subscription and internet only.

3) There are programs out there that let you subscribe to torrents for your favorite shows.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:11 pm

Yes, that call is a rather entertaining if sad story I may share later but the bottom line was I was told I already have the lowest pricing for what I have. They tend to give promotions only to new customers, once they've got you they want to raise the rate continually is what I was told when I moved here, and it seems that's true or there is truth in it.

I thought about cutting cable but there are a few things I'd like it just depends if it's worth the money to me. I'm on the fence about whether it is, though I know only I can determine how valuable it is to me.

Really? I really only watch travel channel though I prefer a few others. Are there torrents that would let me get at that?

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Postby djrez4 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:24 pm

There are torrents for everything. Before we had cable, we used it as a sort of poor man's DVR. Now, we have an actual DVR, so I just use it to snag Bill Maher's show every week.
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Postby whit » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:25 pm

I've never had cable and except for two sports (nfl/nba) I wouldn't really want it..I try not to spend too much time in front of TV and if so wouldn't wanna pay for it, personally.

I don't catch every game so for the ones I want I would just go to a bar/sports lounge

the only show I watch is Suits which I caught accidentally, the first episode or second I forget, of season one, in my hotel room in NYC, it was playing pretty late so dunno if it was a rerun.

with that I just buy the season pass via iTunes (it's on Netflix but the internet connection sucks so streaming pauses so much..) and it's not bad, anywhere from 30-40 max.

worth it for me

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Postby RewardHop » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:05 am

What cable company is this?

I stream a lot from Netflix, Amazon Prime Instant Video, Hulu, YouTube, BBC UK iPlayer (using http://tunlr.net/ trick) etc. It pretty much covers my TV watching needs.
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Postby Midori » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:53 am

I once read an article that said that, unlike many other areas, there are no rewards for being a loyal customer to a particular cable company. A lot of people naturally have an aversion to switching providers for a particular service, even if it makes economic sense, and the article was trying to get people to see that it's the natural consequence of their chosen business model.

If Tivo's a little too clunky and not the kind of savings you're wanting to get, is there a competing cable company in your area with a good promotion going on?

We probably would have cut our cable a long time ago, if I wasn't using the cable internet so DH could keep the DSL for his gaming. My MIL generally watches tv on her computer... mostly sports. And for about six years, we mostly watched DVDs, and didn't have tv at all, which was only annoying on the few days we wanted to watch 24-hour news as it broke, instead of just reading it.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:35 am

It's Time Warner.

And they have a monopoly in my area - there is no competition to switch to (hence why they can raise prices at will and they do). They are a deregulated monopoly, the only saving grace is it's a non-essential service so we are free to not pay them if we wish. But if we want cable they are it in my area. (Milwaukee area).

I looked at TIVO but I just don't want to spend that kind of money. 10 years ago it was fairly reasonable now it's vastly more expensive - I got my TV AND the sound bar for it cheaper than the TIVO I'd want with the service for it. Plus with TIVO I still have to pay Time Warner. Doesn't make sense to me.

I did look at Satellite but the reviews I read on the internet for it were not positive.

So I guess I just suck it up and pay, until we reach the point that in my mind they've priced themselves into something I'm no longer willing to pay or can afford to pay.

At least I looked at the options. I did not really check out the bit torrents though that is kind of a question in my mind. Still I'll have to pay them (Time Warner) for internet to get that so they are still in the picture here one way or another....

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Postby Sevenfeet » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:15 pm

First, I would call Time Warner cable and ask for Customer Retention. Once you get there, explain your situation and that cable is getting out of your budget. Tell then you want to cut the cord, or go to Dish or anything (heck, get an offer from Dish or DirectTV and then do the call). The cable companies will listen. I re-negotiate my cable bill every summer to keep the cost down, and they threw in HBO.

Second, I love Tivo and have been a Tivo customer since 1999. However, Tivo is NOT the economy play. It takes far too long to break even with the cost of a Tivo + the Lifetime contract. Tivo's play is that these days its a nice media player as well as the best DVR out there. It's far more reliable than most cheapo DVRs from the cable company. That being said, most of the cableco DVRs are a lot better than they were five years ago and some of them are downright nice with ***y features like multi-room DVR. And honestly, the best media players are Apple TVs and Rokus, which are a lot cheaper. Only Xboxes as media players are a good comparison.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:22 pm

Thanks Sevenfeet. I will give that a try. If it fails, I'll suck it up for now. At least I did look at the alternatives, I just did not find any I preferred. So I'll see what kind of deal I can get from them.

And I do like TIVO, I just don't see it as giving me anything I don't have now. I can record HD now, it works fine with my sound bar and I have plenty of space for what I record. I have a Blu-ray player that already gives me Amazon prime movies and Netflix and Hulu. So the TIVO would not really give me anything I don't already have, except another payment.

But in my past experiences it was great. It's just not giving me anything I don't already have, and it would come at a pretty high cost.

And I had a Roku that I used for Netflix but that simply would not work with my sound bar. I had the newest Roku too so that was very disappointing. I know you can't have everything but that's a plus for the cable co DVR that it does work fine with my sound bar.



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