Are people that afraid to honk at police drivers?

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gmonox
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Postby gmonox » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:13 pm

I remember reading this a while ago, seems on subject and pretty accurate:

How To Deal With Cops | TuckerMax.me

If any of you have ever read tucker max, you know how many times he should have been arrested.
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Postby Jacksnow » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:31 am

Honestly, I used to work with a lot of cops. (Former EMT)

They're all a high stress somewhat paranoid group of folks. (I'll concede they have to be where I was) (Don't go to Oakland. Fallujah Iraq is safer)

Honestly they're at their most paranoid for day to day when doing traffic stops. They're giving you a clear line of sight. They have a predictable route and they have to be next to you in a position where you can outdraw them if you chose to.

All in all they're a decent group of people trying their hardest to stop crimes. Are there "Bad" officers. Yes. But lately the media has done such an effective job of using the bad to hammer in that it's US vs THEM in subtle ways that most don't notice. We all assume the worst. and honestly most of the time we see a cop is when they're interacting with us for a traffic stop. To a scared kid who just saw a crime, by the time we got there the kids already hiding next to the cop.

From personal experience in a riot. A Riot officer in gear is a fantastic sight to behold when you're cut off and hurt.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:18 am

Jacksnow wrote:Honestly, I used to work with a lot of cops. (Former EMT)

They're all a high stress somewhat paranoid group of folks. (I'll concede they have to be where I was) (Don't go to Oakland. Fallujah Iraq is safer)

Honestly they're at their most paranoid for day to day when doing traffic stops. They're giving you a clear line of sight. They have a predictable route and they have to be next to you in a position where you can outdraw them if you chose to.

All in all they're a decent group of people trying their hardest to stop crimes. Are there "Bad" officers. Yes. But lately the media has done such an effective job of using the bad to hammer in that it's US vs THEM in subtle ways that most don't notice. We all assume the worst. and honestly most of the time we see a cop is when they're interacting with us for a traffic stop. To a scared kid who just saw a crime, by the time we got there the kids already hiding next to the cop.

From personal experience in a riot. A Riot officer in gear is a fantastic sight to behold when you're cut off and hurt.


Maybe it's just my perception but when I think of a riot officer in gear, I'm thinking he's ready to pound the living hell out of me for daring to exercise the supposed "right" of free speech I have for daring to speak out against "the regime" which screws us all over. That's the image I get. And the guy who pulls you over to shake you down for money because he's got a revenue quota to meet, and while he's at it decides to search your vehicle while trying to shield you from seeing what his buddies are doing. (I suppose we are lucky they don't plant dope in it and "find" that, though that happens too).

That's what I see. I see the criminals just with a badge, but in the end both are going to screw you over royally and it won't matter whether they had a badge or not at that point.

I try to avoid them the same as I do the criminals. Contact with either group will not result in anything positive.

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Postby Jacksnow » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:14 pm

I can see your point on Riot gear but you've never been in a uniform hurt running from a mob. When I was. No better sight.

Running with broken ribs is not fun.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:27 pm

What happened to you? Was it when you were an EMT?

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Postby Jacksnow » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:58 pm

Ja, Made the mistake of taking the make sure no one dies thing seriously. Tried to pull an injured man out of the line of fire. Got bodychecked by a very large man, only other person with me was my partner a 5ft nothing girl told her to run off, the guy hit me a few times I ran (not proud of that, but he was large. I am not. ) Him and his friends chased me, I tripped. Start to scramble away next thing I hear is a solid

*thump* *thump* *thump*

as a section of riot cops are marching towards me

they arrested the lot of them and got me and the injured man out.

Again. no better sight when you're injured on the run from a mob and really really don't want to get made an example out of since you wear a uniform. Something about the Uniform marching. The hitting of the shields and the sheer amount of noise is definitely impressive.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:43 pm

Well that is certainly good that you got that help.

I personally still see little difference between the cops and the thugs, except the cops will screw my life up legally in ANY and EVERY possible way they can, for the sheer joy of showing their power over a worthless worm like me. So I sure as hell will never call them or ask for their "help". The best way they can "help" me is not go all Gestapo on me, but that's just asking WAY too much like we live in a free country instead of the Fourth Reich so I certainly do not expect that.

I just read that a college student in VA got arrested for buying bottled water on the suspicion by our fascist finest that she was buying alcohol. Good thing we have the SS to "protect" us from ourselves. God forbid you go without them hassling you like you are a terrorist. Hell going to the supermarket is damn near a terrorist act in the Fourth Reich of Amerikkka these days.

Link to it is here: UVA student jailed for possession of bottled water, ice cream

Almost unbelievable what this country has become. Russia is more "free" than we are and they have a thug in power there.



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