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My recent job search results

Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:35 am

So I thought I'd share my recent job search results for those who are interested. It's meant really just as an illustration of what I saw. We all keep reading how the media is trying to fill our heads with how much better the economy is these days, but I am sure not seeing it on Main Street.

I work in IT as a programmer (nerd). I'm not a hardcore nerd in the pure sense that I don't have this inborn desire out of a feeling of wanting to compensate for feelings of inferiority due to the fact I wanted to be a jock but I'm not to demonstrate how much more intelligent I am than the entire rest of the world (which I see in many nerds to be honest). I will admit to lacking the social skills (to a nerd that means you demand everyone else do things YOUR way because you are so much more intelligent than they are) that most of us have, but I'm not what I think of as a hardcore nerd, more like nerd lite. But I am a programmer, and I enjoy the problem solving aspect of that as well as helping people. I don't enjoy dealing much with my fellow nerds who have the complex I described above they are a PITA even for fellow nerds to deal with let alone normal people.

Ok a bit of background. I've been doing this for 15 years now (just about). I work for a company where my career is basically in the toilet. I have nowhere to go here. I will grant in this economy no matter what the Ministry of Propaganda says, we are lucky to have any job. But I'd really like to be all I can be as the saying goes, for ultimate satisfaction. I'm not content to just settle. But I will say having a job that you are making a living at these days is a good and fortunate thing.

So I decided to take a look at what's out there. What can it hurt right? I updated and enabled my resumes posted on the major job boards and decided to see what happened. A recruiter contacted me about a local company and set up what I was told was an interview during an afternoon, so I took that afternoon off out of my measly two weeks a year of paid time off (vacation) to go there. I arrive and they had some girl wearing a unicorn mask greet me, and I was told it wasn't really an interview after all, just they wanted to meet me.

Needless to say I wasn't too thrilled about wasting a half day of vacation to be the butt of their practical joke.

Then I got an interview lined up with a development firm, they were willing to be "flexible" in letting me come in for a face to face later in the day so I didn't have to take a full half day of my time off for that (I know, I should get down on my knees and thank God for that generousity, if not do other things on my knees to thank them). But it was downtown and like an hour away in rush hour traffic, and then you gotta pay for parking which is expensive, and since it was just an informal initial meeting with the manager, I asked if there was any flexibility to meet offsite to avoid that. I was immediately told that I obviously was not displaying what it took to be a member of their team (i.e. when you jump I scream SIR YES SIR HOW HIGH SIR). I guess if just asking that question causes that I wouldn't have wanted to work there anyway.

My next interview came from an ad off Craigslist (yeah that was bad from the get go...). The guy seemed really nice via email so I set up an interview with him at the end of the day so I wouldn't have to use PTO for it. I drove over there, and the guy spent most of our hour together trying to basically beat me down in price, harping again and again how he just can't be sure I'm worth the kind of money I make now and blah blah blah. He tried to paint himself as a programmer, but when I tried to talk tech with him, he couldn't run with me, so I wasn't impressed. I realized I didn't want to work for him anyway, so at the end I finally said "So basically what you're trying to tell me is I'm overpaid". He kind of stopped and seemed taken aback, and the interview was over very shortly after.

At that point, I decided that while my career at this company is going nowhere, that is still better than dealing with the sorts I saw when I was interviewing, and I made my resumes invisible and gave up the search.

I can tell these people who are going all rah rah about the economy, you really should go look for a job before you tell us how great everything is. I know better from personal experience.

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Postby MB131174 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 am

WHAT was up with the unicorn mask?!
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Postby AMEXPlatino86 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:08 am

That's why it's getting hard to find a job. You have to sort through all this craziness from people to even find something even suitable to interview for.
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Postby Sevenfeet » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:08 am

It is getting better out there. The numbers prove it. That being said, it is still not like the salad days of IT in 1998-2000 (dot-com era, Y2K work) where anyone with a pulse was getting hired and people were bouncing around companies like pinballs. You're not the only one not happy with your current gig. Have some patience and keep looking. You're in a much better position having a job and looking for a new one than being unemployed and looking desperately for the next gig to pay the rent.
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Postby djrez4 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:02 pm

It may be getting better, but it's still a buyer's market. With the glut of unemployed, you're competing against people who are willing to take lower pay and crappier benefits just to have a job. If you refuse to cowtow to the employer's demands, they'll look elsewhere.

Better than terrible can still be bad.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:12 pm

djrez4 wrote:It may be getting better, but it's still a buyer's market. With the glut of unemployed, you're competing against people who are willing to take lower pay and crappier benefits just to have a job. If you refuse to cowtow to the employer's demands, they'll look elsewhere.

Better than terrible can still be bad.

This. Exactly my findings. Part of their games are just to establish total control from the get go and make sure you know your place (grovelling at their feet).

Play the game or get lost and we'll find someone who will, seems to be the attitude that I've found out there. I agree 100% with what djerz4 said.

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Postby malevy » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:19 pm

I've been thinking of switching things up as well but this makes me rethink stuff
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Postby KrazyNick » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:46 pm

Wow I've never realized it was that bad out there. I'm the employer and I would kill to have some hard working employees. I live in a big college town and I get a bunch of students applying. It's not rocket level stuff but a lot of older people that apply do tend to request a lot higher pay than some kid . I guess you usually get what you pay for but I've been quite shocked, some of these young employees have done a really good job.

Meanwhile business wise things are going so well we are in talks for expanding and opening up one or more two stores. Definitely feel like the recession is over and people are back to spending money again! Of course I'm talking about retail! I'm sure it's a lot harder to find a I.T job. That's sucks your at a company where you are stuck and can't progress any further.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:00 pm

I'm glad your business is doing great Nick. Maybe in your area things are better too. But good in any case you are doing well!

Yeah I am not going to look for a bit yet. They are kind of in a bind right now as far as personnel, I'm not a rah rah game player I will just get the job done the best I can for the benefit of the company, you don't get noticed that way they think you don't do anything if you aren't spending your time self-promoting. I don't care, I am going to do my job to the best of my ability I have to live with myself at the end of the day. Anyway they are in a bind, one guy isn't doing so well another is leaving for 2 months that leaves me. I have to pick it up. I can't bail now, but once the other one gets back, then I can look out for my interests. Sometimes you have to suck it up. I feel like it's the right thing to do now, but my time will come, maybe by then the right job will come too.

As others said it's best to at least have one.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:27 pm

I believe there are signs of recovery but it's still pretty fragile. This thing can go either way still and may crash if we are not careful
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