This new made in China garbage that we buy

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Postby marzbarz » Fri May 31, 2013 8:27 am

MemberSince99 wrote:Prior to that I had a Bunn machine that lasted years. It was about 4 years old and still going strong, but this new one had an automatic maker and all the bells and whistles so that's why I bought it. Dumb in hindsight. I ordered another Bunn, already threw this one out.


I have a Bunn maker at home as well, and I wouldnt get rid of it for anything...except another Bunn of course :)
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Postby MemberSince99 » Fri May 31, 2013 7:31 pm

My last one lasted years, wish I still had it. It was a dumb move to replace a good working machine. This one was just a lemon, I'm sure. It happens.

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Postby agp » Fri May 31, 2013 7:42 pm

Try another one. I buy plenty of things made in China and they last just fine. I'm made in China and I'm working out pretty well myself, no problems here.

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Postby PopiLopi » Fri May 31, 2013 9:51 pm

Things are not designed to last long nowadays, it doesn't matter if they are made in china, bangladesh, south africa or italy. On the other hand, I got a Keurig Mini from Kohl's a few months ago and it's working just fine, I use it every other day and no issues.
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Postby FastSRT8 » Fri May 31, 2013 9:59 pm

PopiLopi wrote:Things are not designed to last long nowadays, it doesn't matter if they are made in china, bangladesh, south africa or italy. On the other hand, I got a Keurig Mini from Kohl's a few months ago and it's working just fine, I use it every other day and no issues.


PopiLopi,

I sort of agree but also disagree. Take a look at some luxury time pieces (Patek, Vacheron, to a certain extent Rolex) these babies are made to last and hand down to generations. They are NOT made in China.... LOL
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Postby agp » Fri May 31, 2013 10:40 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:PopiLopi,

I sort of agree but also disagree. Take a look at some luxury time pieces (Patek, Vacheron, to a certain extent Rolex) these babies are made to last and hand down to generations. They are NOT made in China.... LOL


They also need a good servicing every few years, each time costing almost a thousand dollars... The cost of services is probably the same as the watch by the time your next generation comes around.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:38 am

agp wrote:They also need a good servicing every few years, each time costing almost a thousand dollars... The cost of services is probably the same as the watch by the time your next generation comes around.


Agp, again I also partly agree. The service in although recommended by the manufacturer is in my opinion something that's more elective rather than mandatory.

For example, I have a Rolex which I have had for 18 years and in that time sent it in for service once. Even that service was elective and I did it only as a relationship building gesture and not because the watch needed it. As a matter of fact, the report came back the watch was in excellent shape with no need for part replacement.

So in my case, the ownership cost was low. Build something well and it will last.
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Postby amexguy321 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:58 am

i have two words regarding quality... "planned obsolescence"

of course you get what you pay for, but all things are designed to fail. i dare you to google the obsolescence of light bulbs.

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Postby djrez4 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:26 pm

FastSRT8 wrote: Build something well and it will last.


An example - my 1985 Toyota 4Runner has gone over a quarter million miles and is still going strong. It needs an oil change every once in a while and new tires sometimes, but other than that it's pretty maintenance free. I'm sure it could probably use a few other bits of service, but it doesn't complain.

My Acura is nice, but I don't expect it to last nearly as long without major replacements and repair. In the ten months I've had it, the dealer has had to replace the driver's seat and a speaker. Not bad, but the car is still young.
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Postby FastSRT8 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:07 pm

djrez4 wrote:An example - my 1985 Toyota 4Runner has gone over a quarter million miles and is still going strong. It needs an oil change every once in a while and new tires sometimes, but other than that it's pretty maintenance free. I'm sure it could probably use a few other bits of service, but it doesn't complain.

My Acura is nice, but I don't expect it to last nearly as long without major replacements and repair. In the ten months I've had it, the dealer has had to replace the driver's seat and a speaker. Not bad, but the car is still young.


WOW on the Toyota. I think those things are a great example of over engineering
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