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Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby MemberSince99 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:50 pm

You know the ones I mean....the ones that include at the end the disclaimer that "I received this product (at a discounted price) in exchange for my honest and unbiased review".

Dude, have you ever heard of something called "corruption"? That's kind of how your government works - your "representative" votes in favor of a bill that greatly enriches an entity that contributed a large sum of money to his campaign fund at the expense of the rest of his constituents who get to pay for it with their tax dollars, but of course, he's doing that completely honestly and unbiased in any way. You wouldn't believe that story would you? So how are we supposed to trust your review either? How can you be unbiased if you got it for free (or a significant discount)? You can't. If they are so unbiased why are ALL of these "honest and unbiased" reviews 4 or 5 stars? What are the odds?

I want to read reviews from people who paid their own hard earned money for the product. That's becoming more and more rare on Amazon.

I'm trying to buy replacement salt and pepper grinders to replace one that broke tonight, and I've been trying to find products with actual reviews by people who paid their own money for the things, and it's all but impossible as every one I looked at is littered with fake reviews. It's becoming an epidemic on there. I'm starting to think it's pointless to even read them you just basically have to buy from something Amazon supplies and hope for the best knowing you can return it if it's total crap.

In all fairness I thought how can Amazon really regulate that and in a way they can't - to get around anything Amazon does, all the cheats have to do is just not give their disclaimer about how unbiased and honest they are. If Amazon restricts it to "Verified Buyers" to leave feedback, then the crooked companies just purchase their own product and leave glowing unbiased and honest reviews. Sad to say but it's going to be very hard to really do anything about this form of dishonesty.


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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby Vattené » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:23 am

[sorry - double post]
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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby Vattené » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:23 am

Haven't you heard? It's not really corruption* unless there's a signed contract showing a politician exchanged actions X, Y, and Z for a giant bag of money with a dollar sign on the front. Anything less is completely above board and no reasonable citizen would conclude has any influence at all over our honest, upstanding "public servant" representatives.

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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby takeshi » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:37 pm

Reviews always require careful analysis anyway. Even those that spend their own hard earned money can write dubious reviews. Compensation muddles it more but you can certainly filter for verified purchases though has its caveats as you mentioned. You can search for words like "honest", "unbiased", etc to give you an idea of how much padding there is in the reviews. You can also upvote and downvote reviews. There are those that can write unbiased reviews even with compensation but, again, that requires careful consideration to determine. I recommend looking at aggregate trends versus specific reviews though it can be helpful to look over some reviews with lower star ratings to see what common concerns may be. There's plenty more that one can do to analyze reviews.

Don't rely on a single source for data either. For most things you should be able to find other sources of info than Amazon as well.

MemberSince99 wrote:How can you be unbiased if you got it for free (or a significant discount)? You can't. If they are so unbiased why are ALL of these "honest and unbiased" reviews 4 or 5 stars?

A preponderance of such positive reviews does not mean that one cannot be unbiased. Compensation does tend to skew things but it doesn't mean that there are no critical reviews regardless of what you have or have not seen. Consider how many total reviews are on Amazon and how tiny the number you've seen is compared to that.


If you cannot or don't want to do the analysis manually then try a tool like fakespot.com

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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby PhillyPhoto » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:45 am

I am one of "those people" that have gotten discounts to review things. They give you a discount on the product, and if it's something I want anyway and can get it a little cheaper to take 10 minutes to write what I think about it, why not? Who (especially here and others that think like us) wouldn't want to save some money/get the best deal when they can? Part of the draw of Amazon is to get something at a good price (and free shipping with Prime), otherwise we'd drive down to the local mom & pop store (if large retailers haven't driven them out of town yet) and support local companies and roll the dice on something you don't have any reviews on - at a discount or not. I'm part of that problem, and fully admit it. I don't let the discount influence my review, and make that clear in the review itself. Like others have said, you should take the reviews (of any kind) with a grain of salt. If something is truly bad, people tend to give low scores en masse, so I avoid those like the plague.
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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby rockyrock » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:09 am

Sometimes it's the only way a new vendor or product can get boosted enough to show up in a search. It's always a risk but amazon has a pretty good return policy on most items so the risk is minimal.

I agree with others that any review can be skewed. Reading reviews is complex and for some items you really have to analyze the reviews to get a good picture. I have found that the feedback on reviews to be a very helpful tool. If 50 people said the review helped them and 2 said it didn't I am more likely to trust that review regardless of the circumstances of which it was written.

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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby TXviking » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:00 pm

Nitpick: These reviews are not fake. They may be biased, of course, but that's a different concept than fake. I find the thread subject a bit misleading.

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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby MemberSince99 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:04 am

Well guys, if you really believe they are totally unbiased more power to you, but I guess I now know how our corrupt politicians can sell this country out and people think they are the greatest things since sliced bread and this system is honest and the best on the planet. (I came to realize some time ago we as a people deserve this system and the crooks who run it).

They say one is born every day, and they are soon parted from their money. Must be some truth in that old adage.

And yes by the way your credit cards are "free money". Spend like hell and don't sweat it. Our government does (though not using credit cards) so why shouldn't you? It's the same thing. You can do like Donnie and just go all BK. But you won't have to it's FREE money :)

And I now know why I stayed away for a year. Best and smartest thing I ever did. Too bad I screwed up by coming back. I take full responsibility for that idiocy.

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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby JackLane » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:00 am

Frankly, I care least if they received product for free. What do they actually write in the review, is more important. Are they building a castle in the air or really talking about the product itself? Those who spent hard earned cash, their reviews are sometimes like 'awesome product, 5 stars', what does that tell us?

I learnt to ignore such footnotes and decided to read the reviews to better learn about the product. I don't mind asking question about the product, then you know who has actually used the product. Go back and read their reviews. I have found so many reviews where they got product free have lot more substance to it then those who spent hard earned cash. Plus, my observation is, not everyone that received a free product is on 5-star bandwagon. There are so many 1-star reviews and a free product was received. The point I am getting at is, if you spend some time in actually reading the reviews, you would quickly realize who is faking it. The extensions like Fakespot aren't as good as actually reading the reviews.

Since you talk of salt and pepper grinder, I was in same situation a few months ago. I got, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PID7KAM/ Almost all detailed reviews got the product for free (or for discount, whatever). But when I actually read the reviews, I found them trustworthy. I got this one. Have been using it for few months now, no complaints.
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Re: Fake reviews on Amazon

Postby [email protected] » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:32 am

50% of the reviews may not be true. Sometimes people give away positive reviews about the product. I buy online only when I need branded products. They will be worth their price.



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