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This is a long shot

Postby MemberSince99 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:21 am

But can anyone think of anything I have overlooked?

I'm so utterly beyond fed up I am thinking I need to list my house. In this economy it probably won't sell though.

The issue is a psycho neighbor. It's this 80 year old Korean lady who has no interest other than antagonizing her neighbors and gardening her yard, the street and everyone else's yards.

Last year I kept finding her on my land. I'd come home from work and she's pulling things in my yard. I'd look out and there she is. It was constant. I finally started getting annoyed and I went up and asked why are you always in my yard. Her response was to try to say her neighbors are good people and she hopes I am too. The implication is those who roll over for this are good in her view.

I finally had enough and went out and said you are trespassing I want you to stay off my property. She said I'm sorry I songbook it again.
Ha. Next day she's back I go out and remind her of what she said and she denies it.

I got no trespassing signs and put them up and warned her including screaming at her. It had no effect.

I got motion cameras and recorded her. One day I'm getting ready to shower going from my room to the bathroom buck naked and happen to look at the window and there is crazy going right by. I was less than thrilled.

I started calling the cops but all they will do is a wellness check. They won't cite her or do anything in regards to my right to live in peace from this lunatic.

I gave up calling them.

She waddled around with her pants down giving everyone a show. Someone called the cops they drive up to her and tell her to pull her pants up and leave. Two minutes after they left her pants are back down and they stayed down the rest of the day.

You can see the futility of calling the cops.

She wears summer clothes in sub zero weather and falls down and can't get up. She wears dark clothes at nigh t in the rain as she is out in the street cleaning it.

She takes her dead vegetation and throws it.in her neighbors bushes and brings her trash to our cans.

She's basically a nut who is a danger to herself and a pain in everyone else's ass.

I tried contacting lawyers but got no response.

Am I missing anything? I see my only options as list my house or wait till she dies and hope it's not on my land.


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Re: This is a long shot

Postby im_mr_awesome » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:24 pm

Are we talking a lot of land? Fencing is a good deterrent to those who can't climb over.

If there is already a fence in place, have we considered electrification? :D
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Re: This is a long shot

Postby thom02099 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:25 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:But can anyone think of anything I have overlooked?


Yes.

Not knowing where you live, the size of the community and/or the police department there, you're options could include:

1 - Call the police...again. But ask for a supervisor. Usually a Sergeant or Lieutenant. Explain the situation to him/her and ask for advice. Tell that person you are not satisfied with the previous calls for service and the outcome. If this neighbour has been continually coming on your property when told not to, not only is this trespassing, but it is also harassment. If she is taking items off your property, that is theft. The police department should take your complaint. If they don't, go up the chain of command. Write a letter to the Chief of Police. Contact your District Attorney's office and seek advice from them, if there is no action from the police department.

2 - Contact your city or county adult protection. Just as with child protection, they are required by law in most cases to investigate all complaints or requests for service. This neighbour may have some mental health issues (yeah, I read your full post -- it's likely) and may need assistance. Or she may already be on their radar and the situation to investigate needs to be escalated. Mental Health professionals may need to get involved with this situation. In addition to calling adult protection, call your city or county mental health department, and tell them what you've posted here, and the frustration you're experiencing with this situation.

3 - A goodly number of cities/counties have a 211 resource. Dial 211, and briefly explain that you have a neighbour issue with someone who may need mental health assistance. They will likely put you in touch with a mediator and will listen to your situation and offer potential solutions; they also have professionals who will get actively involved in mediation, to the point of contacting the other party involved and finding out what is going on with that other person. They may also be a resource to get adult protection involved.

4 - Go through the court system and get a restraining order on her. I'm surprised an attorney did not offer this suggestion to you. Have her restrained from coming on your property. There will be costs involved, but it may very well be worth it to you. The restraining order will need to be served on here, which is usually done by the county Sheriff's Department, or a private process server. Once she is served (and you will get notice of service), then if she violates the restraining order, you have additional cause to call the police department.

40 years of law enforcement/pubic safety employment have given me a pretty good perspective on things one can do with these types of situations. The suggestions above may or may not work for you. But they are additional places to seek assistance.
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Re: This is a long shot

Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:27 am

Thanks for both your responses

I actually set up one of those water sprayers that keeps deer away it has a motion detector and shoots water when something waddled by. I saw her in the alley and knew from much experience what was coming so I waited and sure enough I hear it go off and there the idiot is. She turned around and left my land but I about died laughing.

That has been my only victory in this little war.

I plan to call adult protective services tonight.

A fence is not in the budget for this year maybe next.

I will also go up the chain I have little to lose.

We had a confrontation on my land last week again. I'm tired to death of it. It ended in a pointless yelling obscenities match by both of us and she spit at me so I spit right at her ugly face and got her head as she was waddling away after she spit. I'm just fed up with this situation. I will see what I can do thanks again

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Re: This is a long shot

Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:17 am

I was thinking I should add that I asked the officer about a citation for trespassing with so many incidents. He responded he didn't think it would stop it.

He's probably right and yes she's not playing with a full deck but if that's a reason to not issue a citation then why ever bother writing one. I mean if you cite someone for speeding they will slow down for a week then go right back to it I would guess.

I though he ought to do it and see if that gets her son's attention and maybe he reigns her in.

Asking nicely or screaming profanities at her is pointless so not much to lose by trying something else.

I've started going out and using my super soaker squirt gun on her that does get her to leave. But I am sick of having to watch and patrol my land I just want to live in peace. I shouldn't have to deal with this nut always being over here just my opinion.

I pointed out how I'm not going into her land and messing with it as she wouldn't like that but the message just doesn't sink in.

Hopefully elder care can help or going up the chain.

No one should have to live like this. There are far worse things but no one should have to put up with this.

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Re: This is a long shot

Postby Tubpbs » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:27 am

MemberSince99 wrote:Thanks for both your responses

I actually set up one of those water sprayers that keeps deer away it has a motion detector and shoots water when something waddled by. I saw her in the alley and knew from much experience what was coming so I waited and sure enough I hear it go off and there the idiot is. She turned around and left my land but I about died laughing.

That has been my only victory in this little war.

I plan to call adult protective services tonight.

A fence is not in the budget for this year maybe next.

I will also go up the chain I have little to lose.

We had a confrontation on my land last week again. I'm tired to death of it. It ended in a pointless yelling obscenities match by both of us and she spit at me so I spit right at her ugly face and got her head as she was waddling away after she spit. I'm just fed up with this situation. I will see what I can do thanks again


I know you know, but I would not spit on her even if she spit on or at you first. That's not gonna help you cause.
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Re: This is a long shot

Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:29 pm

Tubpbs wrote:
MemberSince99 wrote:Thanks for both your responses

I actually set up one of those water sprayers that keeps deer away it has a motion detector and shoots water when something waddled by. I saw her in the alley and knew from much experience what was coming so I waited and sure enough I hear it go off and there the idiot is. She turned around and left my land but I about died laughing.

That has been my only victory in this little war.

I plan to call adult protective services tonight.

A fence is not in the budget for this year maybe next.

I will also go up the chain I have little to lose.

We had a confrontation on my land last week again. I'm tired to death of it. It ended in a pointless yelling obscenities match by both of us and she spit at me so I spit right at her ugly face and got her head as she was waddling away after she spit. I'm just fed up with this situation. I will see what I can do thanks again


I know you know, but I would not spit on her even if she spit on or at you first. That's not gonna help you cause.


No one is going to come onto what's in theory my property, and I confront them and tell them for the hundredth time to get the hell out of here, and spit at me and not get spat back on.

Nope. I'm NOT backing down. You come onto my land and challenge me, you had best be ready for what happens next. You try to spit on me, you'd best expect a loogie back. That's just how it goes.

Don't want that? Don't trespass on my land after you've been told by me the owner and the police numerous times to stay out of here, and don't challenge me when I confront you and spit on me. It's pretty simple stuff.

But just sit back and take a bully's abuse is not going to come from me.

I'm not apologizing for it either so don't hold your breath waiting for it.

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Re: This is a long shot

Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:34 pm

I did call the department of aging, they listened to it, then after he verified the police had been here, told me that since they considered her of sound mind and didn't make a referral, that they at the aging department can't do anything.

Well, my thought is, if she's of sound mind that means she's doing it on purpose, so why isn't she cited?

Obviously she's NOT of sound mind, this situation is ludicrous.

Maybe my best bet is just to move out of Milwaukee. It's pretty much a big ole slum anyway. The streets look like we have earthquakes, there is garbage everywhere, the economy has been in the tank for 8 years now with no end in sight, the taxes are a higher rate than Chicago (property taxes, that's no joke we are just above them), and the weather sucks. Not a great place to live.

I hate to throw in the towel on this house but who knows someday I may be glad I did. I'll see about going higher up the chain but I'm thinking based on everything so far it will be futile. Like everything else has been.

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Re: This is a long shot

Postby To My Credit » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:38 pm

Did you consider getting a Rottweiler? I bet you can find someone to train one to attack intruders.
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Re: This is a long shot

Postby Tubpbs » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:26 pm

I wasn't asking you to apologize. I would do the same thing. I'm just throwing it out there. It's assault and unfortunately it doesn't matter if it's on your property or not and she probably missed so technically she didn't do anything. Trust me, I 100% agree with your position, but if I were you the only thing that could make worse is if she spit at me and missed and I spit in her face and got arrested (on my own property!!!).

Rottweiler is an option but is a similar potential problem. Your property or not, if you buy that dog or a dog like it after calling the police and informing them she's crazy and on your property, and it tears her up, you're gonna have the problem most likely. Even though it is her fault and in that instance almost slightly more the fault of the police.

Sick world.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

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