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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby lobbythis » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:30 am

Battery111 wrote:Correct. I had the tmobile iPhone 6 and it was fully functional on Verizon. For the iPhone 6 they were the same model; the only US carrier with a different model was sprint. I eventually gave in and purchased the 6s from that Verizon store after getting assurances there would be no HP. When my CK refreshes in a couple days I'll of course be making sure.


Wow, ok, news to me. Thank you for the confirmation. If there is an HP, be sure to come back and update us.


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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby Battery111 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:43 pm

Will do. I'm more concerned that this is going to be the norm with Verizon every year. If I can't even pre-order through apple, it's going to get frustrating. I recognize this is all fairly silly and inconsequential for most, getting the new model every year. It's just one of my things that I enjoy. I'll likely engage in my standard response to such things, which is writing a letter. And Verizon will likely engage in their standard practice of summarily dismissing said letter.

On a different note regarding your question about the GSM 6 on Verizon. I had read conflicting reports. When I decided to make the switch I completed the whole thing online. It had me put in my IMEI, and verified it was eligible. It then wanted a Verizon SIM card. I actually had one of these on hand strangely enough because I've gone out of my way to acquire SIMs from T-Mobile, ATT, and Verizon for use in my iPad, since it's unlocked by default and supports all the major LTE bands. Gives me options in different areas where one may have better coverage since iPad data plans are prepaid and no commitment. I really just use the T-Mobile one most of the time though, since it gives me a free 200mb per month for life, which is generally sufficient for the light web browsing or email checking I'm doing outside of wifi coverage on the tablet.

Anyway, since I had this SIM I just input it's number on the website, Verizon decided my phone was GTG, and I got activated with no hassle. Then I just ported my number over, effectively cancelling my ATT service. Had I taken the phone into a Verizon store to switch over, I'm guessing I would have dealt with a lot of "we're not sure we can do that" and "this phone isn't compatible".
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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby lobbythis » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:01 pm

Battery111 wrote:Will do. I'm more concerned that this is going to be the norm with Verizon every year. If I can't even pre-order through apple, it's going to get frustrating. I recognize this is all fairly silly and inconsequential for most, getting the new model every year. It's just one of my things that I enjoy. I'll likely engage in my standard response to such things, which is writing a letter. And Verizon will likely engage in their standard practice of summarily dismissing said letter.


Why? You said it yourself, your T-Mob phone works so just keep pre-ordering that one because it goes on sale the same time all the others do. That's how I have always bought my new iPhones. I just never tried to use Verizon service. And who cares if you buy new iPhones every year. Tons of people do it including my friends and family. $700 per year is not a big deal if it's something you enjoy. My stupid credit card AF's are way more than that.


Battery111 wrote: Had I taken the phone into a Verizon store to switch over, I'm guessing I would have dealt with a lot of "we're not sure we can do that" and "this phone isn't compatible".


It will be like this forever until universal SIM cards become the norm and then all of these stupid carriers won't be able to keep lying to people. Although, I am sure they will come up with some new lie to control who can and can't use their network again without being milked for a few more dollars since that is the end game here for every carrier. I am on prepaid service for life and will never return to a major carrier. I forgot to mention, when I have purchased carrier branded phones and not unlocked phones from Best Buy, they question me why and sometimes ask, "Are you sure that will work?". They don't stop me from spending my money, especially because they charge $100-$150 on top of the carrier's MSRP, but they still give me confused looks occasionally. It's funny...people are so blown away by the fact that someone might have $500-$700 to spend and not want a f*cking discount or stupid contract. Not everyone is a godd@mn bottom feeder who is tricked by silly marketing with BS they don't need. As I mentioned before, when I was in retail sales, I sold phones out of contract all the time. If carriers are going to act like such pissy little children when it comes to someone just wanting a phone, then figure out another way to make a profit or raise the out-of-contract price. I don't know the best plan. But, telling people they are not allowed to spend their money, especially such large amounts, makes absolutely no sense. I would never tell customers, "NO, WE DON'T WANT YOUR DIRTY MONEY! GET OUT OF HERE!"

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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby Battery111 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:39 pm

Well the T-Mobile iPhone 6 worked on Verizon. I'm not so sure about the 6s. There were some changes to models this year, and it was unclear to me whether the T-Mobile version was the same as the Verizon version. Apple has since updated the info on their website, and it looks like it is. The model 1688 supports sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon, and is what is being sold by Apple as the T-Mobile version. Unfortunately this wasn't clear during preorders. The AT&T model is now the odd man out, since I believe AT&T added another LTE band recently (band 30 2300mhz). It seems that the T-Mobile version will still work with AT&T, but you lose access to that new band of LTE so you may not receive as good of LTE coverage in some areas as the native AT&T model 1633.
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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby whit » Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:47 am

i'm with verizon and i don't recall them pulling my credit... i mean, i have had them for about two years now (or more, i don't recall but i started with 5, 5s and have 6, soon 6s..) and haven't seen any inquiry from them.

i also have two lines, and have upgraded (alternating between the two) every year.. i have another one due next month BUT

i've never set foot into a verizon store.

i switched over via online and have had my phone delivered.

since then (and also when i had to pay full price for my phone that was lost) i've always gone to the apple store (personal reasons, i always just get things done faster with the apple pple and they've yet to piss me off/fail me).

so maybe you should just buy it full price from the apple store? i think that would solve your problem of a potential credit pull/not being able to buy one without contract/at full price.

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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby takeshi » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:20 pm

Battery111 wrote:I usually pre-order on the Apple Store online and it's been no issue.

whit wrote:so maybe you should just buy it full price from the apple store? i think that would solve your problem of a potential credit pull/not being able to buy one without contract/at full price.

I usually purchase directly from Apple instead of Verizon but even that doesn't guarantee no issues. My problem this time wasn't a credit pull. This time around I was paying full price since we're on the new Verizon plan. Still, the Apple Store insisted on checking eligibility which made no sense. There was a pending change to the account that was preventing the order with the Apple Store but the change had no impact on upgrade eligibility or whether or not I should have been able to purchase a device at full price. The only change we had recently was the additional and removal of global service for an international trip earlier in the month. Regardless, the pending change prevented me from ordering via the Apple Store.

Luckily that cleared up before I reserved and picked up the 6s Plus on Saturday.

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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby whit » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:13 pm

Weird!

I'm sorry that happened to you.

I went in on the first day, tippy toed in at end of day after getting my boss's phone fixed...

And asked to buy the gold rose in 64/15 gb...actually had all three... And I had to ask him to check my number for eligibility!

But, my contract isn't due until the end of next month so...felt stupid but I walked away without an iPhone since it's so close to the upgrade.

I think for a company that big it really depends on the rep you speak with.

Luckily there's like three Apple stores in my city alone and another dozen around this city so if I felt like one wasn't good, I can hop into another store.

Hasn't happened yet but you never know. Getting a rep's help is funny like that...

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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby Nixon » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:43 pm

Just tell em "no papeles" and buy it cash.
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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby Battery111 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:11 am

takeshi wrote:
Battery111 wrote:I usually pre-order on the Apple Store online and it's been no issue.

whit wrote:so maybe you should just buy it full price from the apple store? i think that would solve your problem of a potential credit pull/not being able to buy one without contract/at full price.

I usually purchase directly from Apple instead of Verizon but even that doesn't guarantee no issues. My problem this time wasn't a credit pull. This time around I was paying full price since we're on the new Verizon plan. Still, the Apple Store insisted on checking eligibility which made no sense. There was a pending change to the account that was preventing the order with the Apple Store but the change had no impact on upgrade eligibility or whether or not I should have been able to purchase a device at full price. The only change we had recently was the additional and removal of global service for an international trip earlier in the month. Regardless, the pending change prevented me from ordering via the Apple Store.

Luckily that cleared up before I reserved and picked up the 6s Plus on Saturday.


This sounds very similar to what happened to me when I tried to preorder on the Apple Store. Despite selecting the full price option it insisted on checking eligibility, and that was when I hit the roadblock at the Apple Store. I'm also on that new plan. Hopefully this won't be an issue next year, but I guess we'll see.
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Re: Verizon credit check for full price purchase

Postby Battery111 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:43 pm

As a follow up, got a call from their executive offices today regarding the complaint I lodged about this. I didn't intend to escalate it that high, but they don't put any regular mailing address for correspondence on their website that I could find, so I complained through the venue I was able to find.

I was essentially assured a credit check was not conducted, and that it was only an anti-fraud measure. Because I had only established my account with Verizon a couple of weeks prior, then was wanting to conduct what they consider an unusual transaction (it apparently is almost unheard of for people to just buy their phones outright), it flagged my account for suspicious activity and they wanted to verify it was me. I still think it was unnecessary, but I suppose I appreciate the vigilance, despite the fact that I feel photo ID should be sufficient. Anyway, I have verified no HP was generated as a result of this. I was also told this would almost certainly not be a problem next year, since my account would no longer be brand new.
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