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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Nixon » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:52 pm

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Whatamuji wrote:I'll be happy when Trump is finally out of the race. I'm not really hooked on anybody this election like I've been in previous elections. It seems like the Repubs are just being loud and obnoxious with their typical panderings while the Dems are being real quiet and meek.

I'm liking Chafee. He's been quiet, but being quiet might be the smart thing to do while the Republican contenders are busy alienating moderates.


That guy can take a hike. Not only does he want to give my money to generational welfare recipients, but he voted to try to reinstate the "AWB". Come and take it, bitch.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:09 pm

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Whatamuji wrote:I'll be happy when Trump is finally out of the race. I'm not really hooked on anybody this election like I've been in previous elections. It seems like the Repubs are just being loud and obnoxious with their typical panderings while the Dems are being real quiet and meek.

I'm liking Chafee. He's been quiet, but being quiet might be the smart thing to do while the Republican contenders are busy alienating moderates.


That guy can take a hike. Not only does he want to give my money to generational welfare recipients, but he voted to try to reinstate the "AWB". Come and take it, bitch.

He actually was one of only 9 Republican Senators to vote against the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act (Medicare Part D). That was a Republican-led bill, and a massive expansion of entitlement spending on seniors. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2003/s459

I think all Republican chatter about fiscal responsibility is lip service when you consider that bill. It really was huge.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Vattené » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:00 pm

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:I think all Republican chatter about fiscal responsibility is lip service when you consider that bill. It really was huge.

Or when you consider their attitudes towards military spending. None of them besides Paul have learned a thing from the last decade of US foreign policy. They say they're all for fiscal responsibility in one breath then in the next fight over who wants to throw more money at the military. If anyone actually cares about balancing a budget, defense spending is pretty low hanging fruit (even if you're ready to get into more wars, it's just ridiculous).
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Nixon » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:39 pm

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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Whatamuji » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:50 pm

Anybody watch the 60 minutes interview with Donald Trump last night? I watched most of it and I was surprised he didn't talk consistently of himself. But I suppose his office walls did that for him. I hate to say it but I like some of his ideas that he mentioned in the interview like Universal Healthcare and eliminating the income tax for low-income people while raising the taxes for the wealthy. I'm a little unsure about him kicking out foreign companies and stopping jobs going overseas. I feel like if he did that he'd simply replace them with his own company.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Vattené » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:44 pm

He is surprisingly leftist on a couple issues, such as a progressive income tax. Maybe he can say that and appeal to the masses more because he isn't beholden to billionaires for donations?
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:56 pm

Vattené wrote:He is surprisingly leftist on a couple issues, such as a progressive income tax. Maybe he can say that and appeal to the masses more because he isn't beholden to billionaires for donations?

It's partly that. I think he also realizes there are a lot of voters (in both parties) who hate the fact that most other candidates (probably mostly, but certainly not exclusively, Republicans) are so submissive to banking interests. Anti-banking, anti-hedge fund rhetoric, whether it's empty or meaningful, is appealing to voters. People like it that (he sounds as if) he's not out to cater to banks.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Nixon » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:41 pm

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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:08 pm

I've also been thinking...Ben Carson (20%) is now approximately tied with Trump (21%) according to the last NBC/WSJ poll. When a loud mouth loses ground to a softly-spoken guy, is that an indication that Republicans are getting tired of already Trump? Or you think Trump's supporters are going strong, while Carson is drawing votes from people tired of traditional candidates?

Fiorina and Rubio are each at 11%. That's significant to me. The most popular traditional politician (Rubio) is at only 11% in the polls right now.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby Vermonster » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:35 am

I have a huge problem trusting Hillary and Trump. They can say all they want, but I just don't trust them. I have always lived by the idea that the loudest person tends to have the most to hide.
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