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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:28 pm

mountaindewvoltage wrote:
CarefulBuilder14 wrote:When the liberal northeast suffered from Sandy, 2 of 2 Rep Senators and 23 of 24 Rep Representatives from Texas voted against relief, calling it mostly pork and insisting that any expenditures had to be offset by cuts to other spending. Congress sat on it for three months.

Now that it's their constituents who are suffering from Harvey, Ted Cruz and his "fiscally responsible" crowd think Congress isn't acting quickly enough.


That's because Sandy was a pussy storm compared to this one.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/costliesttable.html

"A pussy storm" second only to Katrina.

Harvey may possibly end up doing more damage than Sandy, but I'd say Sandy was big enough that it can serve as an example of Republican hypocrisy/treachery.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby mountaindewvoltage » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:20 am

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:
mountaindewvoltage wrote:
CarefulBuilder14 wrote:When the liberal northeast suffered from Sandy, 2 of 2 Rep Senators and 23 of 24 Rep Representatives from Texas voted against relief, calling it mostly pork and insisting that any expenditures had to be offset by cuts to other spending. Congress sat on it for three months.

Now that it's their constituents who are suffering from Harvey, Ted Cruz and his "fiscally responsible" crowd think Congress isn't acting quickly enough.


That's because Sandy was a pussy storm compared to this one.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/costliesttable.html

"A pussy storm" second only to Katrina.

Harvey may possibly end up doing more damage than Sandy, but I'd say Sandy was big enough that it can serve as an example of Republican hypocrisy/treachery.


Sandy was nothing compared to a category 4-5 hurricane (it was a category two). It was "more costly" because it hit New York City. Place Harvey's landfall where Sandy's was and you'd see the difference in strength between these storms.

If you're reading from the mainstream media, stop doing so... Haven't you learned they're biased in favor of the Democrats?

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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:26 pm

mountaindewvoltage wrote:Sandy was nothing compared to a category 4-5 hurricane (it was a category two). It was "more costly" because it hit New York City. Place Harvey's landfall where Sandy's was and you'd see the difference in strength between these storms.

If you're reading from the mainstream media, stop doing so... Haven't you learned they're biased in favor of the Democrats?

Are you suggesting that if a storm hits a densely populated area, killing a lot of people and damaging a lot of property, the fact that the winds speeds were comparatively low somehow makes it not a "real" disaster with "real" suffering worthy of federal aid?

My interests may be aligned with the Republicans for the purpose of estate tax repeal, but that doesn't mean I buy into Republican "alternative facts" or the notion that climate change is "fake news". Mainstream media can have a bias and yet still be the voice with a grasp on reality.
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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby 4ktvs » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:18 pm

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:
mountaindewvoltage wrote:Sandy was nothing compared to a category 4-5 hurricane (it was a category two). It was "more costly" because it hit New York City. Place Harvey's landfall where Sandy's was and you'd see the difference in strength between these storms.

If you're reading from the mainstream media, stop doing so... Haven't you learned they're biased in favor of the Democrats?


Are you suggesting that if a storm hits a densely populated area, killing a lot of people and damaging a lot of property, the fact that the winds speeds were comparatively low somehow makes it not a "real" disaster with "real" suffering worthy of federal aid?

My interests may be aligned with the Republicans for the purpose of estate tax repeal, but that doesn't mean I buy into Republican "alternative facts" or the notion that climate change is "fake news". Mainstream media can have a bias and yet still be the voice with a grasp on reality.


I have seen both sides push "alternative facts" so much that I am quite sick of it frankly. Fox News, CNN, the NYT, WP along with others have been so toxic that I don't see a future for the United States if people don't get away from their propaganda or if they don't stop so readily shoving their agendas down peoples throats..

My own view on Climate change is that's it has become a huge cop out to avoid real reform when it comes to food, water and air quality safety. It's not that I don't think it's a real issue but it's become clear to me that there are huge interest at play that desire to label everything bad that happens as Climate change and this has started to bug me.

That said I agree the GOP hasn't been as kind on the issue of using fed funds to assist victims of disasters.

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Re: What do you think of Donald Trump?

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:51 pm

4ktvs wrote:I have seen both sides push "alternative facts" so much that I am quite sick of it frankly. Fox News, CNN, the NYT, WP along with others have been so toxic that I don't see a future for the United States if people don't get away from their propaganda or if they don't stop so readily shoving their agendas down peoples throats..

My own view on Climate change is that's it has become a huge cop out to avoid real reform when it comes to food, water and air quality safety. It's not that I don't think it's a real issue but it's become clear to me that there are huge interest at play that desire to label everything bad that happens as Climate change and this has started to bug me.

That said I agree the GOP hasn't been as kind on the issue of using fed funds to assist victims of disasters.

Both sides have always lied, but after consulting Politifact in an attempt to quantity how much worse it's gotten...

22% of Bill Clinton's statements are rated "True". 12% were "False" or "Pants on Fire".
21% of Obama's statements are "True". 14% were "False" or "Pants on Fire".
24% of Hillary's are "True". 12% for "False" or "Pants on Fire".

5% of Trump's statements are rate "True". 48% are rated "False" or "Pants on Fire".
9% of Pence's statements are "True". 28% are "False" or "Pants on Fire".

Admittedly, the site has limitations. They have very little data about George W Bush, for example. Also, they don't try to weigh the significance of each statement. There are plenty of (relatively speaking) honest Republicans and dishonest Democrats in Congress.

Trump really is in his own league, though.
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