MemberSince99 wrote:Guys, to be honest, it REALLY doesn't matter who you vote for - they are ALL in the deep pockets of the eiltes and corporate America. And those pockets do not give money to these crooks out of the goodness of their hearts - it's done for return on investment, which they get back.
You can vote for a Democrat or you can vote for a Republican, but if you are a middle class working stiff American, they are both going to shaft you. The Democrats want to give endless welfare to the lazy poor and the Republicans want to give endless welfare to the "rugged individualist job creators" and corporate America. The bottom line is they both want to take your money and give it to someone else, it's only the party they want to give it to that's any different.
You get the Republicans in and they promise lots of job creation if we give huge tax breaks to corporate America and the rich. They push the tax breaks, but the jobs never show up, except maybe in India, China or Vietnam, but in all fairness they never said WHERE those jobs would be created. You get the Democrats in and they promise "free" healthcare for all but there is no such thing as "free" SOMEONE has to pay for it, and they promise "shovel ready jobs" but the only thing they seem to shovel isn't jobs. The very premises they use for their philosophy is totally wrong and stupid - tax cuts don't create jobs, DEMAND creates jobs. And there is no FREE - the money has to come from somewhere and it doesn't grow on trees. They rely on the people being stupid and brainwashed to pull this nonsense over on us, or worse comes to worse, too cowed from the fact we now live in a police state.
This system is so corrupt, there is no fixing it. The people who benefit from it do not want it changed. And they have the power and money to keep it this way.
So you go vote and tell yourself you're making a difference but in the end you really aren't. The two party system is just a joke and really a one party system to serve the people who really run this country behind the scenes, which they bought and paid for. The ONLY way things are ever going to change is if we grow a pair and MAKE it change. And even then, human nature being what it is, you have to wonder if it will be "meet the new boss - same as the old boss".
This is probably only where I completely disagree
If you don't have the imagination, if you don't have the thought or belief it won't happen. Why else do they try and squash imagination and hope-- keep everyone busy trying to put food on the table and head above the water?
Thing is, I'm a lot of talk, but at end of the day I recognize I'm too selfish to make a true stance as anyone has in the past, who've put a dent to the system but died young. Same reason I would never sign up to take arms overseas. Cowardliness, selfishness, indifference, whatever you want to call it.
No one really pushes at the system because there's a fear of being beaten by the system but who creates the system? Certainly not any one folk. But certainly human tendencies, manipulation and accidental happenings.
But that doesn't mean there won't be an uproar soon, in some format, because no one has or rather maintain, control forever..and when the masses have nothing to lose, because they're beaten down that far..well..
Which is why it's in the best interest for those who are at the very top, because that pool is small, to keep the mass appeased; but they do so barely.
If you have someone who can ideally, tax the rich hilariously and than offer in the next breathe major tax cuts as incentives for pouring back help into society, that would be a step towards swinging ourselves back from chaos and war.
Like, taking a huge company such as Google, and letting them have tax breaks or, being more efficient with their buildings built (red tape and all) in exchange for building a center that will be free for the underprivileged to learn skills such as coding or analytical capabilities so that you're not giving away the fish but teaching them to catch their own meal.
In addition to the benefits of not being taxed as heavily, to better suit their bottom line, they're essentially building goodwill and pr with the community and ensuring they have a good pool to draw from in the future, for the next generation of workers.
Believe me, I'm probably the most cynic and some would say conspiracy filled person but I think you beat me by a yard member.