What stores/restaurants do you refuse to shop/eat at and why?

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Postby notcool » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:00 am

There are two local restaurants I won't eat at because I got sick after eating there in the past.

I do have preferences for chains, of course, but none that I will always avoid do to any bad experience or other strong reason.

I doubt I would buy a car made by GM though, because my parents had really bad experiences with poorly built GM cars when I was a kid.


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Postby jeffysdad01 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:29 am

notcool wrote:I doubt I would buy a car made by GM though, because my parents had really bad experiences with poorly built GM cars when I was a kid.


Ditto that. GM hand-me-down cars I drove as a youngster were all junk. That company is pure evil And almost every day there is another recall and we hear more and more about how many innocent people were killed by its criminal negligence (manufacturing defective products and covering it up).

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Postby Battery111 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:24 am

I tend to agree with you on GM for the most part. But I have to make an exception for the Corvette. My father was always a member of local corvette clubs growing up and I have a soft place in my heart for them. Otherwise, not a big GM fan.
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Postby yfan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:01 pm

MB131174 wrote:I have a conceal carry permit from my state. One time I was heading to the bank to make a cash deposit of almost $5,000. You better believe I had my 9mm on me that day. I was in several stores that day, plus the bank, with my gun securely holstered on my belt under my hoodie. No one knew. No one had to know. Funny though, I had zero urge to shoot up the places I was at.

Well said, but then I go everywhere without a gun, and haven't been shot once. That's just as funny, no?

Anyway, this thread isn't about the right to bear arms, it's about the decisions we as individual consumers make. You certainly have the right to carry your weapon as you see fit, while businesses have the right to decide what can and cannot be brought on their private property.

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Postby jeffysdad01 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:26 pm

I'll just add that one could say that a firearm is necessary in order to protect one's self against the police. They do seem to think that they can shoot whomever/whatever they want without consequences. There are numerous examples; here's just one...

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58250381-78/olsen-kendall-police-department.html.csp

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Postby Vattené » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:55 pm

I am totally with you on the whole police state thing, but I don't see how having any sort of weapon will help you against them. No matter what you have for "self-defense," they will outnumber and out arms-race you. Of course there's enough precedent to suggest they may just kill you anyway for suspecting you have a weapon if you don't, but even then they will look into things after the fact and determine they were in the right.
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Postby jeffysdad01 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:29 pm

I agree with you about the efficacy of self-armament against the police. I was really just being facetious; however I do support 2nd Amendment rights. Eventually, our out-of-control cops will get smacked down once people have finally had enough of the killings, harassment, false arrests/convictions (lying cops and prosecutors), union thuggery, bogus claims for overtime pay/workman's comp., work slowdowns/stoppages, theft/abuse of public property, reckless driving, laziness and donut abuse.


Vattené wrote:I am totally with you on the whole police state thing, but I don't see how having any sort of weapon will help you against them. No matter what you have for "self-defense," they will outnumber and out arms-race you. Of course there's enough precedent to suggest they may just kill you anyway for suspecting you have a weapon if you don't, but even then they will look into things after the fact and determine they were in the right.

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Postby yfan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:43 pm

jeffysdad01 wrote:I'll just add that one could say that a firearm is necessary in order to protect one's self against the police. They do seem to think that they can shoot whomever/whatever they want without consequences.

One could certainly say that, but one would be hard pressed to find a single case where someone in physical danger from a police officer has ever been able to protect themselves by shooting the officer. I also find it funny that the example you came up of police misuse of force is the shooting of a dog in Utah when there's been several high profile cases of police shooting unarmed black and brown men. But hey.

But the issue here isn't the justifications for the Second Amendment. The issue is a business' right to ban guns from its establishment, and consumers' right to insist that a business does so or take their business elsewhere.

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Postby yfan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:44 pm

I understand I have ignited the gun debate to a degree. So be it. My opinion has been stated. But PLEASE understand I was only stating it in the context of this thread. Just because you have the right to a gun doesn't mean I have to patronize businesses that allow guns on their private property.

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Postby jeffysdad01 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:50 pm

yfan wrote:I also find it funny that the example you came up of police misuse of force is the shooting of a dog in Utah when there's been several high profile cases of police shooting unarmed black and brown men. But hey.


I specifically chose the example of the dog to avoid any extraneous discussion about whether any of the dead black men/youth actually were a threat to the police. The dog clearly was not. But hey.



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