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Postby jumbo » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:42 am

Looking into a new BMW, 3 series. Starting to change my mind now.
Rather than having a basic bmw for 30K, I can get a loaded Honda SUV with leather heated seats, 4 wheel drive, and is a lot practical.
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Postby lobbythis » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:32 pm

jumbo wrote:Looking into a new BMW, 3 series. Starting to change my mind now.
Rather than having a basic bmw for 30K, I can get a loaded Honda SUV with leather heated seats, 4 wheel drive, and is a lot practical.


The small car just isn't worth it unless you are a small person and absolutely have to have BMW cars.

Funny you mention the Honda SUV. I assume you mean Pilot? Awesome car, especially compared to the tiny, basic 3-series BMW. Family has one, fully loaded, tons of room and the thing is V6 AWD so acceleration off the line is way better than I expected. I would MUCH rather have a fully loaded Pilot. Plus, the form factor obviously gives a lot more functionality.

Sorry to go off topic a bit nismo, back to BMW. 5-series and 7-series are great if you can afford them. Plenty of room in both and awesome power of course. I just think the damn 3-series is so watered down.

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Postby Nixon » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:02 pm

lobbythis wrote:The small car just isn't worth it unless you are a small person and absolutely have to have BMW cars.

Funny you mention the Honda SUV. I assume you mean Pilot? Awesome car, especially compared to the tiny, basic 3-series BMW. Family has one, fully loaded, tons of room and the thing is V6 AWD so acceleration off the line is way better than I expected. I would MUCH rather have a fully loaded Pilot. Plus, the form factor obviously gives a lot more functionality.

Sorry to go off topic a bit nismo, back to BMW. 5-series and 7-series are great if you can afford them. Plenty of room in both and awesome power of course. I just think the damn 3-series is so watered down.


My father has a Honda Pilot and I was surprised by the off-the-line torque on it as well. It's probably the only Honda engine with torque in a usable range. :)
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Postby nismoZtuner » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:00 pm

jrv wrote:I have a 2008 550i M-Sport.


I sent you a P.M about the BMW i am looking at!
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Postby nismoZtuner » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:02 pm

jumbo wrote:Looking into a new BMW, 3 series. Starting to change my mind now.
Rather than having a basic bmw for 30K, I can get a loaded Honda SUV with leather heated seats, 4 wheel drive, and is a lot practical.


The thing i like about the 550i Im looking at is that i have not seen a single one in my town yet- so that means ill be the one with it hahah

most of the beemer i see are the old ones and some series 3s.
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Postby nismoZtuner » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:03 pm

lobbythis wrote:Sorry to go off topic a bit nismo, back to BMW. 5-series and 7-series are great if you can afford them. Plenty of room in both and awesome power of course. I just think the damn 3-series is so watered down.


heck yeah 360 HP is enough for me its not like i`ll be racing.. just need enough to have fun every now and then
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Postby jrv » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:10 pm

You cannot accept anymore P.M.'s until you clear some of the ones in your inbox.

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Postby Cre » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:24 pm

(in an old goat croaky cranky voice...)

When I was 22, I had to have a sports car. It had to be fast, turbo charged, targa topped, rear wheel drive, 6 cylinders, 6 speeds (I tthink), Z rated tires, triple digit speeds, yada yada yada.

I had to have this car so much, I took out a car loan to buy it. The only time I ever borrowed money to buy a car. And, I was still paying off my college loan too. Now, nothing bad happened as far as my credit. I still made every payment on time, and paid ahead on principle when I could.

But what I didn't realize when I was 22, but quickly learned when I was 23, was that this ruthless, roofless sports car I had to have was getting in the way of something else that I REALLY had to have... which was a roof over my head. My own roof. Not someone else's roof that I was paying rent for. I realized that If I kept paying rent until I was 30, and then looked for a house to buy... that I would loose seven years of an opportunity to let time (not my interest payments) build equity.

So a year later, I sold my sports car, at a five figure loss (which was a LOT of dough a few decades ago) just so I could pay off that car note in full, and stage myself to get what I really wanted... which was financial freedom in the future.

If I had to do it again, I'd have skipped over the sports car step... and gone straight for the first house. The sports car merely accrued speeding tickets. The house, on the other hand, has accrued 30 years of appreciation... surviving not just the recent housing bubble burst in 2007, but the one prior to that, when you were born, in 1992. The longer one owns property, the more insulated they are from the downturns, which have cycled, in my experience, about every 14 years . Seven years of feast. Seven years of famine.

That's what I think about BMW, Porsche, Mercedes, and the like.

Owning the garage to park it in comes first.

(grumpy old voice turned off)


If I had to have a sedan, I'd go for the M5, but I really like that new all electric 8 series BMW coupe... have you seen pictures of it? That thing is bad*ss.
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Postby mdl28 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:05 pm

lobbythis wrote:Rode in a friend's 2013 330 and absolutely hated it. I'm only 6'1" tall and felt like I was riding in a go-kart. Plus, the interior was nothing special. Another friend just got a 2014 Honda Civic and the cabins were literally the same size. Even the technology in the car was no different than the Civic and they both have slow, little 4-cyl engines.

Difference...Civic was $22k and the BMW was around $40K I think. I didn't feel like telling this person I think they totally got ripped off and should've just bought a Civic.

I'm sure 5-series and 7-series are nicer, but 3-series is for little teenage girls.


You must not have your eyes open. BMW vs Honda? Take the time and look at the details. Mirror placement, upholstery, placement of proper illumination, heaviness of doors, chassis construction,wheels and tires, and most important engineering. I'm 6 foot 2 and have a 2010 M3 coupe. There is more leg room in this car than in most suv's and trucks I've been in. I rather have my body stretched out than be sitting as I would be on a bench. Im not a fan of 5 series. I've had the 528i and am much happier with my M3 coupe. Very reliable, comfortable, and well constructed vehicle. Bovarian Motor Works know what they are doing. The newer models are getting very electronic which im not a fan of. My 2010 is simple, well done and reliable.

Drive a few and see what feels best for you. BMW is all about the customer, you are treated with the up most respect.
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Postby lobbythis » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:02 am

mdl28 wrote:You must not have your eyes open. BMW vs Honda? Take the time and look at the details. Mirror placement, upholstery, placement of proper illumination, heaviness of doors, chassis construction,wheels and tires, and most important engineering. I'm 6 foot 2 and have a 2010 M3 coupe. There is more leg room in this car than in most suv's and trucks I've been in. I rather have my body stretched out than be sitting as I would be on a bench. Im not a fan of 5 series. I've had the 528i and am much happier with my M3 coupe. Very reliable, comfortable, and well constructed vehicle. Bovarian Motor Works know what they are doing. The newer models are getting very electronic which im not a fan of. My 2010 is simple, well done and reliable.

Drive a few and see what feels best for you. BMW is all about the customer, you are treated with the up most respect.



No, you misread. Please, tell me where I mentioned M-series. That is an entirely different ballgame and you know it since you are so quick to defend it in length. I said basic 330. I admit, I forgot to specify 330 sedan to be fair. It was cheap-feeling and small because it's their bottom of the barrel car other than a 328 or that laughable, child's play 1-series.

Of course I would take an M-coupe. Don't be silly. My point still stands though. A basic 3-series sedan is not worth any investment when you can have much better for the same price or less. And, I only mentioned the Pilot because another member brought it up.



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