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Postby popamode72 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:02 am

I shaved on Friday and it's Monday and still only have some stubble grown back. Before when I was shaving with disposable multi blade cartridge razors, by now id have more hair grown back and much more of an itching sensation. It's also still much smoother than before.

I don't like using alcohol on my face much. The alum block and Proraso aftershave have worked just fine for me, really helps reduce irritation and helps out with telling me if I was too aggressive in a certain area and even helps out with any nicks I may have gotten.
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Postby takeshi » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:50 am

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:The Parker Silvertip brush was nothing special. I compared it briefly to the Escali brush and Parker was only slightly better. I now know there is a lot of variability in quality, and I would definitely have to inspect any brush in person before spending that much on one again. Then again, maybe the Escali was just an especially nice Pure brush.

lobbythis wrote:The brushes I still don't fully understand. I use a $30 Parker that I compared with a $60 NY Shave Company and the Parker feels softer.

It's all about what you're specifically looking for from a brush and you develop that over time with experience with brushes. The price tag isn't relevant aside from your budget. Like many other products, don't just assume that more $$ means better.

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:For how many shaves do you keep each blade before replacing it?

You have to assess this yourself based on how the blade works. Replace when it needs replacing. Beards aren't all the same so blades dull at different times for different people. I replace my Feathers about once a week as that's the point where they start to change for me.

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:I am starting to find the Parker Silvertip is a bit better than the Escali Pure. Still, I'm sure there must be better Silvertip brushes than Parker, and worse Pure brushes than Escali.

Instead of thinking of every brush on a one-dimensional spectrum from best to worst start considering specific properties that you like and dislike about the brushes. Odds are you're never going to be able to experience every brush available in person before buying. In any case, even if you could, experiencing a brush on a store shelf isn't the same as shaving with the brush. Consider things such as the softness of the tips, the backbone of the bristles, the diameter of the knot, the size of the head of the brush, the loft of the bristles, etc. It's from knowing what you like and dislike about these things that you can discuss future brush purchases with others to help to determine what future purchase might suit you best.

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Postby takeshi » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:01 am

lobbythis wrote:Using the safety razor every day just causes too much irritation and I haven't been able to stop it other than increasing the time by another day or two.

It can be tricky to troubleshoot irritation. There are just so many potential causes including the DE, blade, angle, pressure, incorrect understanding of beard growth and/or a stroke going in a direction that just does not work for your skin, irritation due to a specific ingredient in a product, metal allergy, etc.

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:For aftershaves meant to help prevent cuts and irritated skin from getting infected, is alcohol pretty much a necessity?

You really have to determine if it's necessary for you. Alum has antibacterial properties. IIRC witch hazel can work as well. If an alcohol AS is too drying for you then you may want to consider using one or both of these followed up with an aftershave balm.

Again, it's really a matter of finding what works for you versus a one-size-fits-all solution.

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Postby lobbythis » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:49 pm

takeshi, the most explicative person on this forum. Always appreciate the advice/analysis my friend.

I feel like you are a consultant of some sort by trade.

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Postby popamode72 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:02 am

Didn't get any cuts or nicks with my second shave thus far but I'm finding it pretty hard to get a close shave with these Derby blades, especially on my mustache area. I'm still left with a stubble there and it's quite annoying no matter how many times I've tried to go over that area. I did get some patches on my chin that were baby smooth but still. Anyone know of any other blades I can try that can really cut through these areas without many nicks or anything? Maybe I'm doing something wrong here because I do all that prep work and slowly figuring out what angle of the razor works best with my face.
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Postby lobbythis » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:06 pm

I have used Derby, Dreadnought, and Gillette. All seemed to perform about the same for me. No problems in any area.

Maybe it's your angle. With a safety razor, you can't really f*ck up too much no matter what you do. Don't be afraid to go at a sharp angle. I hate hair around my lips so it's an area I always focus on and have not had any problems with any of those blades. I wish I could be of more help.

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Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:22 pm

What I like about Derby Extra (compared to Bic and Shark in my current setup) is that the blade seems to flow more smoothly over my face. I can make one motion that goes smoothly for 3 inches or so until the contour of my face changes. With Bic and Shark, the blade gets interrupted a bit. The actual shave closeness isn't spectacular with any blades yet.
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Postby popamode72 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:45 pm

lobbythis wrote:I have used Derby, Dreadnought, and Gillette. All seemed to perform about the same for me. No problems in any area.

Maybe it's your angle. With a safety razor, you can't really f*ck up too much no matter what you do. Don't be afraid to go at a sharp angle. I hate hair around my lips so it's an area I always focus on and have not had any problems with any of those blades. I wish I could be of more help.


I think that might be it in my case.
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Postby popamode72 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:05 am

Wow. I think my third time shaving with a safety razor has been my absolute best. I think a lot of the problems I was having before were due to not having a good enough technique because I really knew how to hold the safety razor properly to get that angle I needed, it was much easier to cut through even some of tougher hairs on my face.

Still not perfect, but I've made quite a lot of progress and it's feeler much smoother than my first or second attempts were, all with absolutely no cuts or nicks on my face at all. That will probably continue to be the biggest thing I need to get used to besides having to do 2-3 passes. Oh yeah, I'm still using Derby DE blades too so I think I'll keep using them for a while, though I'm still tempted to want to try out those Feather blades.
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Postby lobbythis » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:28 pm

Good. That's exactly how it should be. After a pass with the grain and against the grain, you can't even tell hair used to be on my face. That's using the Derby blades too.



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