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Postby Yoshiofthewire » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:54 am

I have been on at&#@$ you that's why for 20 YEARS. Back when they were at&t and not SBC.
I'm on at&t because I want unlocked cell phones with SIMs I can just change at will, and in PA t-mobile cuts out on major highways. This will be less of an issue once LTE is real, and not fake and bake.
If you travel overseas a lot, look at T-Mobile, they offer FREE text and 2G data when you roam overseas.
If you can stand t-mobile's coverage.
If you want at&t coverage, for cheaper, look at Cricket.
Cricket was bought by at&t recently, and now they are an at&t MVNO.

There are little to no savings to be had with other MVNOs.
You can get on at&t for $35/month for a smart phone plan.
Many MVNO plans offer more data for the same price, on either Sprint or T-Mobile.

With all of this, if you want an iPhone be ready to pay $1000 UP FRONT!
If you don't, you WILL pay the $1000 in to form of higher bills for 2 years.
This will be on top of the cost of a full network price.

Sorry about the rambling brain dump nature of this post.
MVNO: Mobile Virtual Network Operator, ie: Trackfone
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Postby MemberSince99 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:15 pm

Tonight I called Verizon as I wanted to make sure I was understanding that I owe them one more month on my contract and then it's done. I waited at least 10 minutes before I spoke with a really nice rep. I asked if my understanding which is that I have to pay them one more month and it's done is true and she confirmed that. She then asked about my reason for wanting to know that, probably suspecting, and I told her I'm looking to move on to T-Mobile once the contract is done. She noted that I'd been with them since 2002 and wanted to know why. I explained to her that I feel like I want unlimited data back for my smart phone. She said well you hardly use any now. I said the reason for that is because I'm afraid to use it and go over, because I pay you 135 a month now, and if I go over I'll really get bent, so rather than risk that I don't use it as a smartphone, which if you think about it, what's the point if I can't do that - I might as well get a Motorola RAZR and just have a phone then. I explained I feel like with what I'm paying which is already outrageous, worrying about going over on the data shouldn't be an issue, but that her upper management's philosophy is to bend the customer over and I understand that but I'm simply going to move on to other companies who can better meet my needs. She said yes I understand that I really do, just make sure with T-Mobile if you travel they have coverage in the areas you travel to. I did appreciate that she mentioned that.


She asked me to keep them in mind for the future, but I don't see myself going back as I just don't appreciate the greed of their management. For what I pay them every month I shouldn't have to worry about data it should not be an issue. And the service (reception) just isn't that great even in the metro area here. I suspect the money they pull in goes a LOT more for upper management bonuses, because it sure as hell isn't going to improve that network they love to brag about. I'm done getting bent. But that CSR was very nice so good people do work in bad places sometimes!


One more month with Verizon and I'm done with them and it's on to T-Mobile. I've already picked the phone I want I'll buy it outright and I will NEVER sign another contract for cell phone service again. Buy your damn phone upfront so you aren't locked in and can move around. I've learned that lesson.
I'm done paying smartphone money and not being able to use it as a smartphone. Thanks for teaching me that Verizon, see ya!

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Postby darkguy2 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:25 pm

T-Mobile does not have contracts. You buy your phone on a 0% loan so you make payments on it and at any time you can pay off the rest of the device to leave.
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Postby lobbythis » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:48 pm

Yea, the "loan program" is a 24 month contract. They all have their sneaky ways of advertising and after T-Mobile did it, every other major carrier did the exact same thing.

You still end up paying more for your phone in the long run versus just buying the phone out right and their are other stipulations beyond that. Like I said, it's all still a contract. I don't care how many fancy words you want to use to sugar coat it.

The USA is conditioned to the idea of contracts/loan programs and too stupid to understand how much they actually pay.

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Postby supercoolman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:05 am

lobbythis wrote:Yea, the "loan program" is a 24 month contract. They all have their sneaky ways of advertising and after T-Mobile did it, every other major carrier did the exact same thing.

You still end up paying more for your phone in the long run versus just buying the phone out right and their are other stipulations beyond that. Like I said, it's all still a contract. I don't care how many fancy words you want to use to sugar coat it.

The USA is conditioned to the idea of contracts/loan programs and too stupid to understand how much they actually pay.




it's all about banking interest. I thought tmobo doesn't charge ETF, but you must PIF on the phone before you leave?

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Postby lobbythis » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:37 am

supercoolman wrote:it's all about banking interest. I thought tmobo doesn't charge ETF, but you must PIF on the phone before you leave?


I just want you to take a looksy right here my friend: $200 ETF Fee

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3235#etf

Feel free to also search Google and see tons of complaints. Even when you go through checkout, it mentions this in fine print. All of that on top of taxes and higher priced plans than what you would pay on prepaid.

I pay $45/month with LTE, unilimited text/calls and 3GB of data (StraightTalk on AT&T), same as their $60 Simple Choice plan. That will be more than $15/month plus tax for crappier coverage and network. Add that to the $609 cost of a Galaxy S5 for example over a 2 year period.

Some significant difference there and you wanna slap that $200 ETF fee if you decide to take your phone elsewhere?

So many snakes in the grass.

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Postby supercoolman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:56 am

lobbythis wrote:I just want you to take a looksy right here my friend: $200 ETF Fee

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3235#etf

Feel free to also search Google and see tons of complaints. Even when you go through checkout, it mentions this in fine print. All of that on top of taxes and higher priced plans than what you would pay on prepaid.

I pay $45/month with LTE, unilimited text/calls and 3GB of data (StraightTalk on AT&T), same as their $60 Simple Choice plan. That will be more than $15/month plus tax for crappier coverage and network. Add that to the $609 cost of a Galaxy S5 for example over a 2 year period.

Some significant difference there and you wanna slap that $200 ETF fee if you decide to take your phone elsewhere?

So many snakes in the grass.



I buy my phone upfront or bring my own phone, so I will never have to pay for ETF with TMobo. I had to pay ETF when I left AT&T after I asked to go from prepaid to postpaid for 8 months, but I brought my own phone purchased from outside of US. that's the difference I'm talking about. AT&T will sign you into contract when you enter postpaid. It doesn't matter if you get a phone from them or not and I learned that the hard way

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Postby lobbythis » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:35 am

supercoolman wrote:AT&T will sign you into contract when you enter postpaid. It doesn't matter if you get a phone from them or not and I learned that the hard way


Correct. I bought a $500 phone out of contract for a friend on Verizon once. They still forced him into a contract. I couldn't believe how f*cking shady that was.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:51 am

I'm not - I repeat not - EVER agreeing to a cell phone contract again. Period. If I have to just buy a generic cheap POS phone from Walmart and use that so be it I don't need all that crap that's on them now anyway. It's nice to have but I could live without it. I am not signing a contract they can kiss my ass if they think otherwise. I'm done guaranteeing loser companies income. Mine isn't guaranteed, why they hell should I guarantee theirs? I'll buy my phone outright thank you very much and NO contracts.


That's one reason I lost interest in ADT and their home alarms. They advertise it's "free" to get the alarm with a 99 installation fee. What they put in the small print is you're locked into a 3 year contract with them. NOTHING is free people NOTHING. Check out that fine print they hope you don't read for all the ways they will bend you over. Avoid locking yourselves into them and guaranteeing them a paycheck - your employer likely won't give you that guarantee.

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Postby lobbythis » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:33 pm

I hope you did not have to learn the hard way Member, but glad to see another person who has wised up to cellphone contracts.

If you have to sign something, RUN.



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