Another example of government that's nuts

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Another example of government that's nuts

Postby MemberSince99 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:39 pm

I went online to renew my registration. And when I clicked the button, they actually played an advertisement before I could renew. I switched out of the browser and ignored it and went back when it was done so I have no idea what it even was, but is that insane or what? I wonder how many scumbags they sell our info to as well. I keep getting insurance offers in the mail, who knows I mean any dirtbag that's willing to pay their price can have our personal info, how lovely.


All the taxes they rape us for really ought to be enough, in my view.


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Postby mdl28 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:29 pm

It's funny I look @ drapes online and now I'm getting drape ads from amazon. I looked @ servers on a furniture site. Now I'm getting emails for furniture ads emailed to me. It's wild how you are tracked, actually a bit scary.
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Postby MemberSince99 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:52 am

That's a whole different thing - they track your browsing history, that' show you see ads for items you've looked at online.


With newer versions of IE you can disable that, at the cost of the hassle of it not "remembering" you at sites you commonly log into.


Between the government and private business, there is actually very little you can say, do, or even think without them knowing. "1984" was just a few years early.

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Postby Vattené » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:38 am

I would bet money that my state university sold students' email accounts. For the first few years I had no issues, but then the floodgates opened on the spam - and it was mostly for "scholarships" and the like.
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Postby yfan » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:34 am

Then, by all means, don't use the CFPB when you have a problem with a CA. It is a government agency too, you know. I'm sorry, but this is not "1984". This is privacy paranoia borne out of ignorance on how things really work in a data driven world, the Internet, and ad networks.

When you say you went to renew your registration, I am assuming that's your state's DMV. "The" government seems to be a generic term for any problem one has with ANY government, and I think a bit more specificity is required. Next, you say you don't know what the ad was about - could it have been a public service message about driving safety rather than something some "dirtbag" did, even assuming it originated from the DMV's website and not some overlay from another browser extension or software you (probably unknowingly) installed? Internet Explorer is notorious for exploits like that.

Lastly, the way internet ad networks work, your particular info on one site has nothing to do with whether or not you see a given ad (assuming it WAS an ad you saw). Web crawlers follow you on your browser and collect information on your searches, etc, but they DON'T collect personally identifiable information. They most often use browser cookies to gauge your interests and serve you ads. If you turn that off in your browser, you will see generic ads.

I run a website and to pay for it I use an ad network. I keep NO information for my users, let alone sell it, in order to serve them ads. The ads they see on the site depends on how the ad network (Google's adsense) determines their interest. No personal data is compromised for this to happen. A government website can just as easily use such an ad network without having anything to do with the data the ad network has at all.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:05 pm

I'm sorry, but you have not in the least convinced me that I ought to be subjected to ads when I go online to renew my vehicle registration with the Wisconsin DMV. Last I checked, that's all part of the "government", you know those folks who take so much of our hard earned money and piss it away.


No, it was an ad. Maybe an ad to you is a public service message but you are in bed economically with those people so of course you think that kind of thing is wonderful. I have a different view.


And YES it was most certainly from the DMV site - they popped up a browser window that said you will be redirected in 30 seconds then they start playing that POS so I knew to just go do something else and when I came back the same popup was at the renewal screen. Sorry, I may not be the brightest bulb on the tree, but I know the difference between the popups you get from surfing porn sites that hijack things, and this one. But nice try.


Have fun dealing with the dirt bags and their "public services".

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Postby yfan » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:22 pm

Oh, yeah, dirtbags. Maybe you should stop driving on the public roads then, paid for by taxpayer dollars and maintained by the dirtbags government. Stop relying on the government and never report anything to the CFPB. For that matter, never go to court if something really bad happens. After all, the courts are a branch of the government. Don't call the cops or the fire department if there's a burglary or a fire at your home, or call an ambulance for that matter. 911 service, Police and the Fire Department are part of the government. Paranoia has to have a limit. Libertarian paradises exist, in places like Somalia.

But instead of heating this up, maybe we should address the specific issue you raised rather than trying to justify a broad statement. That you saw an ad - even if it is an ad (as opposed to a public service announcement), which I don't see how you can know since you admitted to not even seeing it - does not mean your DMV is "selling" your information. The DMV most likely has nothing to do with this purported ad at all, except putting a code on their site to display it. The ad network does not need nor rely on the DMV to track your online activities.



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