amex007 wrote:Ah I see. Thanks for the info.
It looks to me like Arrival and Venture just gives you statement credits for travel at a 1:1 ratio but you earn the pts at like 2%. Not too appealing. Might as well just do the Citi DC if you want something like that.
TY points do seem similar to UR pts although UR pts has decent cash redemption.
I was mainly looking to see if there were any other point system besides MR and UR that could be taken advantage of without an AF-card. I guess the answer is no.
The main appeal of the regular Arrival is that it's a Chip+PIN, no-FTF, no-AF MC. It can be convenient for international travel. Rewards are a secondary consideration.
Cash redemption really shouldn't be a consideration with transferrable points. Say I have 30,200 transferrable points. My focus should be on getting 2 cpp or more for 30,000 of the points. If the last 200 points are worth less than 1 cpp as a statement credit or on Amazon, it's really not a big deal.
I once thought of MRs as inferior to cash. Those days are behind me. If I can't get a good value for them, I save them and purchase travel with "cash" (PRG or CSP).