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You really do push the envelope I would say. On the second one, I could see a discount, but getting it free? Man.
I'll relate a few of mine. One that I won (one of the very few to be honest) was a cell phone I bought off fleabay (bad idea) that was listed as "guaranteed to activate". I got it, went to activate it, and Verizon refused to activate it, implying it was stolen but not saying it, probably for legal reasons, and so it was worthless to me. So I filed the dispute, and that was won pretty easily I got my money back and he got his stolen? phone back.
One that I got royally screwed on was kind of interesting in retrospect. I played an online game, and I bought some characters and money for the game from a third party company on their online site, paying via Paypal. Days went by and I saw nothing in my account in the game, so I contacted them repeatedly and heard nothing. I finally got tired of this and contacted Paypal to initiate a dispute. THAT got their attention they pretty much IMMEDIATELY contacted me urging me to close the dispute, promising they would THEN give me what I paid for. I said just give me what I paid for and I'll end the dispute, that's all I'm asking. They refused, claiming it was their policy to not give anything to anyone who initiated a dispute. I was like that's not my problem, I bought these things you need to get them to me. So I escalated the dispute, knowing if I dropped it, I had no basis for anything and they could just keep my money if they so chose, and I didn't trust them at that point.
After I escalated some chick calls me up on the phone, repeatedly, to urge me to end it. I said all I want is what I paid for what is the problem here? I refused to end my rights, and so she told me right on the phone that not only were they not going to give me my stuff, they were also going to get me banned from the game to boot. I didn't believe they could but sure enough, they did both.
To make it better, Paypal decided they could keep my money because according to the terms of Paypal, "virtual goods" are not covered.
I realized at that point crime DOES pay if you do it right. While I was royally pissed at getting screwed so blatantly, I had to hand it to them they were smart crooks. I also realized if I was a crook myself there was a lot of money on the table ripping people who pay via Paypal off.
Soon after that I closed my Paypal account because I realized I'm not really protected and they are about as big of slimeballs as some of the crooks out there.
I had no credit cards then they took the money directly from my bank account for the purchases (Paypal did) and I already knew how great my bank was about handling disputes (basically screw you, better you take it in the shorts than us). I still remember this stuff, and to this day I will NEVER EVER do business with Paypal and this is why I am inclined to move my banking to Chase as I still have not forgotten how my bank hung me out to get screwed in the past. (There will be a certain amount of joy in closing the Elan cards and moving on from Associated I can tell you....usually I don't enjoy closing accounts but in this case I will a bit).
And as the seller, the crooked buyers on fleabay eat you alive. They are all out to screw you, some just want a kickback, others want it free. I sold an item that was made of spalted wood, which as you may know is always different because it's spalted so the guy didn't like the color. He ended up getting it free, and I paid for the fleabay fees and to ship it to him so I paid for him to have it. What a deal for him and what a screwing for me. I realized then I'd be better off to donate stuff to charity or sell for cash on Craigslist because it was costing me money to "sell" items on fleabay.
There are a LOT of scumbag crooks out there, some stuff I just smash and throw in the trash anymore because I just get sick of dealing with greedy criminals who are just out to get something out of you for nothing. It's bad enough when all you get is a little money out of this, but when you are paying people to screw you something is REALLY wrong here.