Disputing a mandatory gratuity

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Postby randeman » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:19 am

trumpet-205 wrote:This is the first time I heard of mandatory gratuity (tipping). Certainly isn't something I appreciate it. From what I understand in here tips are used to make up minimum wages? Does that even sound right?

I always do take out, so I never paid for any tipping. In Asia, many restaurants consider tipping to be offensive, so rarely does someone do so (if you must, you have to put cash in an envelope).


Federal law (and probably all or most state's laws) state that if a large percentage of an employee's income is from tips and gratuities then the employer only has to pay that employee a percentage of minimum wage.
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Postby randeman » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:36 am

Although somewhat off topic, I speak as someone who waited tables and tended bar for years. Sometimes, if a large (over six or eight) group comes in for a meal, one or more of the party will tip very little or nothing, assuming that the server will have it made up by other people at the table. I recall once making 5% off a total table because some in the party decided they would tip very little hoping the server wouldn't notice. They got excellent service. Those were the people I hoped had a flat tire with no spare on the way home. Or were just involved in a horrific accident. That's one reason most restaurants add an automatic gratuity. I have NEVER heard of a restaurant refusing to adjust a gratuity up or down at the request of the customer. However, most customers don't take into consideration what may be going on in the back of the house (kitchens, etc) and naturally just assume that if the service is slow it is because of the waiter. Not so. I have also had customers express their displeasure with the kitchen by under or not tipping the server. This, too, is crap. Servers don't have complete control over your service. If everyone had to wait tables for a month in a restaurant they might think twice about how they tip out.
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Postby Snowman » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:09 am

Randeman- Just last night I had a party of 10, they ordered 90.00$ worth of food, and I provided my best service that I could. They paid, but left no tip. But w/e, it's fine. I just hope to never see them again.
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Postby shoptalk01 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:45 pm

I decided not to dispute it. I can't risk having my credit score drop further.

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Postby cathyT » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:24 am

The point of a gratuity is to reward a person for their effort. Some people think that they’re getting a wage already, which is usually minimum and in some states less, but tips are how restaurant and bar servers are able to, mostly barely at all, keep from utter poverty. Source of article: Tipping.



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