flan wrote:That violin was clearly fake, and the buyer had an expert opinion to that effect. Knowing that, it seems unwise for PP to tell the buyer to send the fraudulent instrument back to the seller, so they can attempt to defraud someone else.
There are so many good reasons to dislike pay pal, why pick one where there behavior is perfectly rational, and in accordance with their written policies?
Honestly, I still think the buyer should have had to return it. I never sold anything I claimed was extremely valuable and hence never sold anything fake that I ever knew of. But if I sold something and someone says this isn't what you claimed I want my money back and I want to keep the item and Paypal agreed that not only do they get it free but I have to pay them via eBay fees Paypal fees AND shipping and insurance, I'm going to tell them what they can kiss. That's just as fraudulent to me as selling a fake item. Part of me says if it was fake, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy, but I would not want some buyer and Paypal deciding they can just keep the item.
No system is perfect and you are always going to get cheats and frauds as both buyers and sellers (and I got ripped off both as a seller and a buyer, there are loopholes you can exploit on both ends of it) but Paypal flat out blows. If I had all the money I got screwed out of I could take a nice trip to Vegas. Maybe I'm like Amex, but I haven't forgotten or forgiven. I blame the thieves out there more than Paypal - Paypal just held me down while the crooks made me squeal like a pig. But I now sell either on Craigslist for cash only and I meet people in public no having weirdos come to my house, or I donate to Goodwill and get a tax write-off. Even donating for a tax write-off I'm WAY money ahead over the last things I sold on eBay.