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in india you can buy credit card numbers

Postby KC95 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:31 am

in india they are selling UK credit card numbers on the blackmarket. call centers that collect payments for UK cell phone customers are recording the data and then selling it off to the highest bidder. BBC says U.K. credit card information for sale in India - Network World


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Postby Floppster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:08 pm

KC95 wrote:in india they are selling UK credit card numbers on the blackmarket. call centers that collect payments for UK cell phone customers are recording the data and then selling it off to the highest bidder. BBC says U.K. credit card information for sale in India - Network World


KC I am sorry to tell you however you don't have to go to india to be a victim.
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Postby DoingHomework » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:06 pm

About 2 years ago I bought something online from a major software company. It was NOT Symantec but it was a company about the same size and I bout directly from their website (in the US).

About 2 days later I saw three strange charges for computer games (also from a major games company everyone has heard of) for a total of about $100. I immediately reported to the card company and they were very good at taking care of it.

I also emailed customer service at the place I bought the original software and at the games company alerting them to the fraud and informing them the charges had been reversed. The original software company sent an email back threatening that if I reported the fraud they would prosecute ME!

I picked up the phone and called the legal counsel for the software company (got the info from the annual report). I told them one of their employees had threatened me and that I was informing them as a courtesy. I also forwarded them the email on their request.

Man did things happen fast after that...good things! They reacted very quickly, sent an apology and really got on top of it. The lawyers knew that, while the original theft of the card information and resulting charges were probably not their fault, the threat by the employee trying to get me not to report it was a criminal act and also exposed them to civil liability for future charges.

I think the original customer service guy that threatened me was in India but it doesn't matter.

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Postby Floppster » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:56 pm

No matter if you buy software from Symantec, Microsoft or Lotus. Even though you buy it through them they often outsource their merchant service. Using Gateways from another bank. So it is often out of their hands.... unfortunately.
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Postby DoingHomework » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:32 am

Yeah, it was pretty shocking to get threatened by customer service! They said if I reported the fraud or had the bank cancel the charges they would report me to a credit bureau and to the police. This is called "obstruction of justice" and is a crime. The idiots doing customer service should have known this. The lawwyers for the company certainly did! It was fun. I bet that customer service guy was looking for a job soon after that.

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Postby Robin » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:08 am

It is a really shocking matter.

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Postby InCreditWeTrust » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:22 am

Not surprising India is one of the most corrupt and backwards nation on Earth.

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Postby JCarter » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:49 am

DoingHomework wrote:Yeah, it was pretty shocking to get threatened by customer service! They said if I reported the fraud or had the bank cancel the charges they would report me to a credit bureau and to the police. This is called "obstruction of justice" and is a crime. The idiots doing customer service should have known this. The lawwyers for the company certainly did! It was fun. I bet that customer service guy was looking for a job soon after that.


It is not obstruction as you are not a officer of the court, however it does violate law when it comes to Fair Debt Collection/Fair Credit Reporting and it does constitute harassment and threats without basis (if your state has this statute). I'd certainly call the corporate offices up and report this while having counsel draft a cease and desist letter.

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Postby JCarter » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:52 am

KC95 wrote:in india they are selling UK credit card numbers on the blackmarket. call centers that collect payments for UK cell phone customers are recording the data and then selling it off to the highest bidder. BBC says U.K. credit card information for sale in India - Network World


One of the partners in my firm who handles a large issuer which is based locally is working on presenting a case to the federal economic crimes task force because of cards being sold online. This happens quicker and far more anonymously than having to goto India to buy cards.

While this is abhorible, there is not much that can be done except to continue to prosecute these individuals. This kind of stuff will go on until our great-grandchildren are able to create a verification method which extends to phone/e-commerce purchases and is 100% flawless.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:52 pm

WOW. That's crazy. I hope I never have to go thru that experience.
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