whit wrote:And I'm in a big city; *knockonwood*, I don't live in south San francisco and claim to live in SF, like Brooklyn would say they're nyc.
I don't know the SF/SSF situation, but Brooklyn is definitely legally and culturally part of NYC. Brooklyn and Manhattan are different counties (Kings and New York, respectively), but both are part of New York City. NYC consists of five boroughs, and each borough is basically its own county. So whereas most of the US has several cities within a county, NYC has several counties within a city.
But it's true that it's not very touristy, or what many visitors think of as NYC. It's less fashionable than many parts of Manhattan or the Bronx. People who are from a nice part of Manhattan often won't hesitate to name their neighborhoods/streets - to let you know they are not just from NYC in general.
I moved around the NYC area a bit growing up, but I've never lived in Brooklyn, so I should be pretty unbiased about this.
*I looked it up, and the county governments were dissolved in 1898, and replaced with local administrative units. So a borough/county is best described as a local administrative unit within one massive city.*