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Smartphone I bought on eBay became blacklisted

Postby aryeh » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:13 pm

I bought a New Samsung Galaxy S5 on ebay in May for $600, a week in a half ago it became bad IMEI, so I called T-Mobile and asked what happened, they said that the person who sold me the phone had financed it and he didn't pay his bill so they blocked the phone.
Now since it happened 4 months after my purchase it's too late for a PayPal or Ebay not as described claim, so I opened a dispute with AMEX for receiving damaged merchandise, and I explained to them over the phone what happened, and I uploaded my receipt from paypal, and a picture of the phone's IMEI, and a picture from Swappa.com/esn showing that my device is blocked due to non payment.
How likely am I to get my money back?


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Postby djrez4 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:44 pm

Unlikely. Amex purchase protection covers you for 90 days from purchase.
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Postby rockyrock » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:27 pm

You really got boned on this one.

I would still call Paypal and eBay to see if there is anything they can do. This is beyond a "not as described" He essentially sold you stolen merchandise.

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Postby aryeh » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:41 pm

I opened the case over the phone, I called and told them what happened and asked what to do and they opened the case, they didn't tell me it was too late

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Postby lobbythis » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:23 am

This scam has been going on like crazy. It's going down on eBay, Amazon, CraigsList, etc.

People are even paying homeless (or anyone in financial desparation) people cash up front to use their SSN to get high end phones, then flipping the phones immediately for 2-3 times the on-contract price.

After 45 days, PayPal themselves will do nothing for you. I have an online business and deal with customers scamming me with false CC chargebacks quite often. PayPal will immediately bow down to any chargeback claim, especially if the seller's PP account has a bad history. The only time I see them ignore CC chargebacks is if it's been 6 months or more since the sale, but then I have also spoken to other sellers who have had chargebacks after 6 months.

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Postby MemberSince99 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:55 pm

You did get boned but the lesson to learn from this is do not let this drag on for months - at the first sign of trouble file a claim. You have to in order to protect yourself.


I had a similar thing happen - a guy sold me an IPhone on eBay he claimed was brand new and "guaranteed" (his exact wording) to activate. I called Verizon to activate it and got the thumbs down - they would not activiate it because they considered it a stolen phone. I immediately filed a "SNAD" (significantly not as described) dispute pointing out he guaranteed it would activate and it did not. (To me that's a pretty significant difference...) In this case Paypal pretty much immediately determined in my favor and I got my money back and was asked to return the phone to the seller which I did.


But the key point is - do it right away don't wait with things like this. The clock is ticking and if you let it go long enough the scammers win. I got so tired of dealing with scammers on eBay both as a buyer and a seller that I finally just quit even using and I haven't had an account there in years now. There is just too much crime going on with that.


Craigslist is getting just as bad. The plusses are no Paypal cash only and no shipping stuff. The minuses are all the Nigerian scammers emailing you asking "Is the item still available" and wanting to send you a check for way more than the item amount and you western union them the difference (if you fall for that you almost deserve to get boned for being stupid) and of course, the wackos who will rob or kill you and take it. It's always a risk meeting strangers in person like that.

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Postby nismoZtuner » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:06 pm

MemberSince99 wrote:Craigslist is getting just as bad. The plusses are no Paypal cash only and no shipping stuff. The minuses are all the Nigerian scammers emailing you asking "Is the item still available" and wanting to send you a check for way more than the item amount and you western union them the difference (if you fall for that you almost deserve to get boned for being stupid) and of course, the wackos who will rob or kill you and take it. It's always a risk meeting strangers in person like that.


I`m assuming they will report their money order stolen if its legit-that way they can get their money back?
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Postby nismoZtuner » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:08 pm

In case paypal doesn't do anything at least you can part of out the phone. My friend received two iphones (5 and 5S) one is black listed any the other one isnt but who knows- well he is selling the two phones are parts on ebay.. so may be you can do that as well..
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Postby lobbythis » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:18 pm

nismoZtuner wrote:I`m assuming they will report their money order stolen if its legit-that way they can get their money back?



No. The money order they send is fake. Once you deposit it, they want you to send the difference immediately. The check bounces and the difference you sent them is the profit they made and is sent via a method that is unretrievable like Western Union or GreenDot MoneyPak.

They sucker you in by pretending to send a huge amount of money with the fake money order. The key to this scam is timing. They want you to do it all in the same day/24 hour period. Otherwise, they lose once that money order is denied.

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Postby nismoZtuner » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:23 pm

lobbythis wrote:No. The money order they send is fake. Once you deposit it, they want you to send the difference immediately. The check bounces and the difference you sent them is the profit they made and is sent via a method that is unretrievable like Western Union or GreenDot MoneyPak.

They sucker you in by pretending to send a huge amount of money with the fake money order. The key to this scam is timing. They want you to do it all in the same day/24 hour period. Otherwise, they lose once that money order is denied.



So why not cash it first before doing anything else?

*** that's one way of knowing if it's fake..
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