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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-31815</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? I happen to have a Bank of America Visa Signature with no annual fee and a $250,000 credit line. BETTER perks without the pointless annual fee... You are the stupid one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I happen to have a Bank of America Visa Signature with no annual fee and a $250,000 credit line. BETTER perks without the pointless annual fee&#8230; You are the stupid one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-31780</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 04:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johannes Schlabach - LOL. You&#039;re a moron. Every card in my wallet has much higher credit limits and with the exception of the Amex they&#039;re all no-fee cards. 

Paying $495 a year to borrow money at usury interest rates with no benefits like Amex, and then to insult people for pointing out how bad this card is makes you by far the dumbest person to have posted here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johannes Schlabach &#8211; LOL. You&#8217;re a moron. Every card in my wallet has much higher credit limits and with the exception of the Amex they&#8217;re all no-fee cards. </p>
<p>Paying $495 a year to borrow money at usury interest rates with no benefits like Amex, and then to insult people for pointing out how bad this card is makes you by far the dumbest person to have posted here.</p>
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		<title>By: Yogi Bear</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-31252</link>
		<dc:creator>Yogi Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most good black cards don&#039;t have spending limits or credit limits. Most black card users don&#039;t want to carry a few thousand dollars with them everywhere they go, and most of them don&#039;t carry a balance. If you pay the entire bill every month effectively your interest rate is 0% (think AMEX). So for the issuers to make a profit have to place a high annual fee. Any interest that accumulates is just icing on the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most good black cards don&#8217;t have spending limits or credit limits. Most black card users don&#8217;t want to carry a few thousand dollars with them everywhere they go, and most of them don&#8217;t carry a balance. If you pay the entire bill every month effectively your interest rate is 0% (think AMEX). So for the issuers to make a profit have to place a high annual fee. Any interest that accumulates is just icing on the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-31077</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so full of s#@t.....dream on wannabe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so full of s#@t&#8230;..dream on wannabe</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes Schlabach</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30942</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannes Schlabach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW .. I don&#039;t think i have ever seen this many stupid comments in one place before. You people who are opposed to paying $495 a year for a $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 or higher line of credit have to be some of the dumbest people on the face of the earth. I do deals with banks all the time for my business, and to suggest it is dumb to pay a fee for borrowing money shows your absolute dim-wittedness. 

This has nothing to do with whether another card charges more or less, it has to do with what makes sense for the individual getting the card. Banks don&#039;t all charge the same for house or car loans, that doesn&#039;t make one person dumb to use one bank and another person smart to use another. I currently use 6 different banks, private investors, credit cards and to suggest one source is bad because you can get a slightly better deal elsewhere is completely idiotic. Sometimes I feel we should drop these dumb people into the ocean about 20 miles from shore without life jackets. To all you DUMB people, get educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW .. I don&#8217;t think i have ever seen this many stupid comments in one place before. You people who are opposed to paying $495 a year for a $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 or higher line of credit have to be some of the dumbest people on the face of the earth. I do deals with banks all the time for my business, and to suggest it is dumb to pay a fee for borrowing money shows your absolute dim-wittedness. </p>
<p>This has nothing to do with whether another card charges more or less, it has to do with what makes sense for the individual getting the card. Banks don&#8217;t all charge the same for house or car loans, that doesn&#8217;t make one person dumb to use one bank and another person smart to use another. I currently use 6 different banks, private investors, credit cards and to suggest one source is bad because you can get a slightly better deal elsewhere is completely idiotic. Sometimes I feel we should drop these dumb people into the ocean about 20 miles from shore without life jackets. To all you DUMB people, get educated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewels</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that anyone with a &quot;black card&quot; is contributing to the perception that Americans are greedy and ignorant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that anyone with a &#8220;black card&#8221; is contributing to the perception that Americans are greedy and ignorant!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30776</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, just not a sucker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, just not a sucker.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30775</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;to help the card keep it&#039;s low appearance rate&quot;  how stupid.  I&#039;ll never pay 495 dollars to carry a card that just because I think it&#039;ll impress someone when I pull it out.  Wow, I didn&#039;t think there were people who actually cared about flaunting a credit card.  Maybe you haven&#039;t seen people using this card because it&#039;s a overpriced.  I read the information and I had to look up online to see if they gave you anymore perks for your 495 dollars.  I&#039;ll keep my no annual fee Discover where I get paid 500 dollars a year for spending money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;to help the card keep it&#8217;s low appearance rate&#8221;  how stupid.  I&#8217;ll never pay 495 dollars to carry a card that just because I think it&#8217;ll impress someone when I pull it out.  Wow, I didn&#8217;t think there were people who actually cared about flaunting a credit card.  Maybe you haven&#8217;t seen people using this card because it&#8217;s a overpriced.  I read the information and I had to look up online to see if they gave you anymore perks for your 495 dollars.  I&#8217;ll keep my no annual fee Discover where I get paid 500 dollars a year for spending money.</p>
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		<title>By: JessicaT</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30614</link>
		<dc:creator>JessicaT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 03:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customer service is terrible. This is probably one of the worst spur of the moment decisions I&#039;ve ever made.  

I received the &quot;per-approved&quot; application in the mail and applied online that same day.  I&#039;m really not one for researching, and I&#039;m extremely materialistic, so I can&#039;t even tell you how excited I was to receive the approved card in the mail a week or so later.  

After receiving it, I figured I would compare this card to the American Express Platinum card, and I found that for the Visa &quot;Black Card&quot; I would have to have roughly 118,000 points to get a ANA business class ticket; whereas, I would only need roughly 85,000 points to get an ANA business class ticket with American Express.  

In addition, the Visa Black Card only allows 1 point for every dollar spent, and Amex has a point tier system where you can earn multiple points depending on what you buy.  Overall, don&#039;t apply. There are wayyyyy better cards out there. I&#039;m embarrassed that I applied. The customer service rep was unbelievably rude, so I cancelled my account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customer service is terrible. This is probably one of the worst spur of the moment decisions I&#8217;ve ever made.  </p>
<p>I received the &#8220;per-approved&#8221; application in the mail and applied online that same day.  I&#8217;m really not one for researching, and I&#8217;m extremely materialistic, so I can&#8217;t even tell you how excited I was to receive the approved card in the mail a week or so later.  </p>
<p>After receiving it, I figured I would compare this card to the American Express Platinum card, and I found that for the Visa &#8220;Black Card&#8221; I would have to have roughly 118,000 points to get a ANA business class ticket; whereas, I would only need roughly 85,000 points to get an ANA business class ticket with American Express.  </p>
<p>In addition, the Visa Black Card only allows 1 point for every dollar spent, and Amex has a point tier system where you can earn multiple points depending on what you buy.  Overall, don&#8217;t apply. There are wayyyyy better cards out there. I&#8217;m embarrassed that I applied. The customer service rep was unbelievably rude, so I cancelled my account.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://creditcardforum.com/blog/visa-black-card-secrets-revealed/#comment-30502</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely Agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely Agree.</p>
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