Citi ThankYou Points: How To Maximize Your Rewards Value

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citi thank you logoWhen the Citi Thank You network was first launched it was hailed as being the future of banking: relationship-based rewards for having multiple accounts. Yet now, nearly a decade later (it was launched in ’04) we have seen very few major banks come out with similar programs. Why not? And what are the pros and cons? Just because I advertise their cards doesn’t mean I’m going to hold back on telling you both the good and bad that comes with this rewards program. I’ve updated this review for 2013…

Pros

  • If you have a qualified Citibank checking account and Citi credit card, the points you earn from them go into one Thank You account. Obviously, this makes it easier to rack up rewards fast.
  • The Citi Thank You rewards program continues to grow larger and I expect the variety of redemption options to keep getting bigger. Why? Because Citi seems to be transitioning more of their cards to the Thank You points network (as evidenced by the launch and heavy promotion of the Citi Thank You Premier).
  • Like many card issuers, Citi has a bonus points “mall” that allows you to earn extra Thank You Points for online shopping. What’s nice about the Citi program is that it’s the largest with over 600 merchants participating.

I wouldn’t recommend every Citi card that uses Thank You Points, but there is one in particular that is extremely generous with its 5x points on restaurants, fast food, and entertainment categories, which is the no annual fee Forward card.

Cons

  • The biggest drawback in my opinion is that your redemption options are not always 1 point = 1 cent. For example, a $25 Starbucks gift cards cost 35,000 points (that’s about 0.71 cents per point). However if you go with gift cards in higher increments of $100+ you can usually get a full 1 cent per point conversion. Update: Thankfully now many $25 and $50 gift cards will give you full point 1 cent value per point.
  • The Citi Thank You Bonus Points Center for online shopping does indeed have the biggest selection of merchants, but the rewards you earn tend to usually be quite a bit lower than ShopDiscover (for Discover credit cards). For example, Citi gives 2 pts/dollar at Walmart.com while Discover gives 5% cash back.
  • The bulk of your Thank You points will likely come from your Citi credit card spending, not your checking account. While it is generous for Citi to reward you for things like online bill payments, the truth of the matter is these are lower-margin areas of Citi’s business (especially with the debit card fee crackdown) so don’t expect to get huge rewards on them. My guess is that’s the reason other banks haven’t adapted similar programs – not because customers don’t like them, but simply because it’s less profitable to pay rewards on checking account activity.

Best ways to spend your Thank You points?

When it comes time to redeem, how can you get the highest Citi Thank You point value possible? Well I touched on a couple pointers above but here’s closer look at what is and isn’t the best value:

Bad ideas…

  • Avoid gas cards. Yes, you can buy a Sunoco $100 gift card for 10,000 points (1 cent per point value) but when you do that, you’re missing out on the 3-5% in rewards you would be earning by paying with a good gas rebate credit card. Same applies to department stores and restaurants, if you have a credit card that gives higher rewards for those categories.
  • Avoid cash and equivalents. A $100 cash reward will cost you 16,000 points (0.625 cents per point). The statement credit options for higher amounts do give you a slightly better conversion, but still fall far short of getting a penny per point (35,000 points = $250 statement credit = 0.714 cents/point). For 2012/2013, the cash conversion ratio is now slightly worse at 10,000 points = $50 (1/2 cent per point).
  • Avoid most merchandise. Not to single out the Citi Thank You network, because this holds true for most credit card rewards programs. More often than not the merchandise doesn’t give you the best bang for your buck. Here’s an example…

Conversion value of Citi Thank You points

Good ideas…

  • Music downloads. For all increments – even as little as $1.00 worth of music – you get 1 cent value per point. If you only have a few points and are itching to spend them, this is a good deal. You can get downloads from artists on Sony and Universal labels (hint: Although these aren’t through iTunes you can still put them on your iPod/iPhone).
  • Charitable donations. On donations of 5,000 points and up, you get 1 cent/point for donations to Red Cross. The drawback though is this will not count as a tax-deductible donation (but that only matters if you itemize your deductions, anyway).
  • $25+ gift cards. In my opinion, the best way to use Citi Thank You points (how I usually spend mine) is the gift cards from partners. Depending on the merchant, you can get full value on many $25 and $50 gift cards. But as mentioned, it’s best to choose retailers that wouldn’t take away from high reward earning opportunities you get through credit card spending (i.e. the gas card example).

Ultimately, the Citi Thank You rewards program is what you make of it. If you redeem your points in a strategic manner, you can get a great rebate on your spending (especially with the Citi Forward and its 5x points). On the other hand, if you redeem for whatever your heart desires, your Thank You points value may be up to 50% less than what the “good ideas” above will give you.

What do you like best (and least) about this rewards program?

9 comments... read them below or add your own

  1. Matt from Saverocity March 12, 2013 at 2:37PM

    Nice post – was looking at some ideas and it seems the giftcards are the way to go.

    I have TYP from both the Citigold Checking that drip in every month plus from a credit card, I have heard that you can merge the two accounts, but if you do the points you move from the smaller account to the new primary will expire within 90 days – so better not hang about!

    Cheers,

    Matt from Saverocity

    • FlyingBoat April 23, 2013 at 5:11PM

      I am very surprised the author doesn’t even mention using points for buying flights. Isn’t that the best way to redeem them? Then you get a value of 1.25 or 1.33 whatever it is per point.

      • Michael April 23, 2013 at 5:27PM

        Hi Matt, unfortunately that feature is only available on their “Premier” version which is $125 per year.

  2. Chucks November 18, 2012 at 3:03PM

    Wanted to check if Amazon.com qualified for 5 points per $1 spent. Also, is the conversion for Amazon.com gift cards still 1 points per dollar at the $50 and $100 levels?

    • Andrew November 29, 2012 at 1:45PM

      I have the Citi Forward:
      1. I’m not sure if Amazon purchases still qualify for 5 points per $1, they make it hard to track which purchases exactly provide bonus points.
      2. The conversion at this moment is not 1 point per cent for gift cards at Amazon or many other retailers. The best you can do is 6000 points for a $50 Amazon gift card ($0.0083 per point). You can also just use points straight up for your Amazon purchase at a value of approximately $0.008 per point. I just did this as it saves the hassle of buying the gift card and having remaining value, plus it’s a minimal loss (about 3%) and extremely convenient.
      Only a handful of gift cards give the full 1 cent per point value, and it’s typically only at the $100 level.

  3. Ernie Jay June 29, 2012 at 11:45AM

    Citibank is ripping off users of its ThankYou Rewards program. The promotional material implied that you would get $100 for 10,000 points. After I received my bonus award, I checked the rewards site and found that it took 16,000 points to get $100. I sent a complaint letter to Ken Stork, the VP who sent the promotion and asked him to restore the ratio to $100 for 10,000 points. I didn’t get a reply but when I checked yesterday, they had made the conversion worse by requiring 20,000 points for $100. That’s stealing money that was already awarded to me. Citi’s regular reward card gave a clear 1% reward directly in your account. So Citi devised the ThankYou scheme where your points instead were transferred to a ThankYou account where they could finagle with the conversion rates and take away money that you earned. That’s robbery and I have a complaint in to the Better Business Bureau and to the Federal Consumer Bureau.

    • Michael July 5, 2012 at 9:06AM

      Hi Ernie, is it possible the promotional material was referencing $100 gift cards for 10,000 points? I have seen Citi advertise that and indeed, that is true. They’re a good value when you redeem for retail gift cards.

      • Ernie Jay July 11, 2012 at 12:07PM

        Michael, you’re right about better value with other things besides cash. However, the main problem right now is that since the above blog was written, Citi changed the cash conversion value from 16,000 points per $100 to 20,000 points per $100. So if I had 50,000 points, they used to be convertible to $312.50, now they’re only $250. In effect, they stole $62.50 fromy account and put it into their profit and that’s wrong!! Everybody should be aware that Citi is playing a game against their own customers so everyone should stay away from Citi!!

  4. Shannon December 19, 2011 at 10:46AM

    We lost 79,000 points!!! $800! Help! Our point balance showed 79,000 in Oct. 2011 and the points expiring balance that shows on the same page as the point balance was 0 pts expiring in 90 days. All of a sudden the points expired Dec. 2011 What can we do. Thank you network tells me our points would have showed as expiring, but they DID NOT. I want my points back. Any suggestions as Thankyou network manager tells me they’ll forward my concern to operations and when operations emails back they’ll let me know.
    Am I out $800?

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