800 Credit Score: Secrets of How To Get There (And Above!)
So is 800 a good credit score? Well according to Fair Isaac (developer of FICO) only 13% of Americans have a credit score above 800. When you consider the national average is 692 and the median is 723, being in the 800 and over crowd is an exclusive club indeed. But how do you get there?
If you want to know how to get a 800 credit score, you should go straight to the horse’s mouth….
- MyFICO – This is FICO’s site for consumers. Yeah, a lot of it is trying to sell you on their credit score monitoring services – but aside from that – there’s a great deal of free information in the education and community sections of their site.
- Members of the 800 club – Know someone with a FICO score in this range? Grill them on the types of accounts they have, their credit utilization, payment history, and more. Want someone to start with? Well in a recent post I wrote about my credit score of 790 which you may find useful (used to be 800 before some recent credit inquiries were made).
Is that too much work? Okay, here’s a cheat sheet for you…
If you don’t want to spend your waking hours scouring the MyFICO site and interrogating those who already have a high score, I’ve created the following cheat sheet just for you.
This information is derived from the clues that MyFICO gives about so called “High Achievers” which are those with a score of 760-850, as well as my own experience and knowledge.
1. Age of accounts
Unfortunately this is one of the few things that you can’t control. Just like you can’t accelerate the aging of a fine wine, nor can you speed up the clock on the age of your credit account.
The oldest revolving account (translation: credit card) for the “high achievers” is pegged at 19 years on average. Furthermore, the average age across all their accounts is between 6 and 12 years.
What does this mean? Age discrimination that’s 100% legal! Even though I first hit 800 in my mid-twenties, that is extremely rare and for most, they may not hit that number ‘til their thirties.
2. Bad debt
Collection or public record on your file? On MyFICO it says that “virtually no” high achievers will have that. So even if you do everything else right, don’t think you can get away with having that one ER bill charged off or that old credit card from 5 years ago in collections.
Don’t get me wrong, you can have charged off debt and a few years later, it might be possible to have a FICO in the mid-700’s. But if you are shooting for a credit score over 800, then you need to seriously do whatever it takes to prevent charge-offs, or if they’re already on there, find a way to get them removed.
3. Number of accounts
According to a post by a MyFICO moderator, 6 accounts currently being paid as agreed is the average for high achievers. Moreover, there’s an average of 4 to 5 credit cards on file (which includes accounts both currently open and those that have been closed but are still on the report). Just a little FYI though – I have many, MANY times more cards than that!
So for all the haters out there that love to harp about how evil credit cards are… just remember, when used responsibly, they can be quite helpful for your credit score! If you honestly think you’re going to get to 800 and above by only having a student loan and car loan on record, then I have some swampland in Florida I would like to sell you.
4. Mix of credit
It used to be that you could obtain a killer score with just cards or just loans, but when the formula was tweaked a few years back that all changed.
If you want to know how to get an 800+ credit score nowadays, then you need to acknowledge and accept the fact that a good mix of different credit accounts is imperative:
- Revolving accounts – This is primarily credit cards
- Installment accounts – Loans where you pay a fixed amount each month. Think mortgage, car loan, etc.
Those are the two main categories and then within each, there are also variations which can affect your creditworthiness. For example, TransUnion considers a bankcard with a credit line of $10,000+ as being a “premium bankcard account.”
Since FICO’s formula is secret, no one knows exactly how they gauge the importance of a given credit limit of something like a “premium bankcard account.” But one thing is for sure and that is I’ve never seen someone with an 800 score that only has toy limits of one or two thousand. So don’t play around, play with the big boys and get some five-figure fun for your credit limits.
5. Payment History
Depending on the source you reference, having even just one 30-day late payment reportedly may knock down your score by up to 60-120 points (the higher your score is, the greater the fall). And the higher you are to begin with, the longer it will take to recover (it might be years).
Now just to clarify – as I constantly hear confusion about this – any payment that is up to 30 days late can be treated as a 30 day late payment. You see, the “30 day late” actually covers everything from 1 to 30 days late.
That being said, even though creditors have the right to report all non-paid accounts as late the day after the due date, that is extremely rare. Most won’t report it as late unless it’s not received by the next due date, however don’t bet the ranch on that because every lender operates differently (so be safe and pay on time).
6. Credit Inquires
Every time you apply for some form of credit, whether it be a credit card, mortgage or loan, a “hard” credit inquiry is made. This hard inquiry is recorded on your credit report. It stays on there for 24 months but will only be able to affect your score for the first 12 months (with the greatest impact during the first 6).
The MyFICO moderator posted that for the high achievers category, 72% didn’t apply for credit in the past year. That being said, you can most definitely have an 800+ score even with inquiries affecting it. You just don’t want to have too many. From my experience anything beyond 3 per year is a no-no if you want to keep your score above 800 (mine dropped to 790 from having that).
7. Utilization
Last but not least, we come to credit utilization – the percentage of a credit limit (or loan) which is being used. It has been a hotly debated topic at CreditCardForum on multiple occasions.
If you go by the high achievers, then the average is 7% on the revolving accounts (a.k.a. credit card accounts). And indeed, this is right in the neighborhood of mine which came in at 6% last time.
One of the lesser talked about forms of utilization is that which applies to installment loans. The MyFICO moderator highlights that of a loan’s original amount, for the high achievers an average of 35% has been paid down.
When you think about it, the installment loan utilization rate probably correlates closely with the average homeowner who bailed on their underwater mortgage during this real estate crisis. Why? Because those underwater were much more likely to be (a) recent buyers before the bubble burst, and/or (b) people who bought with little to nothing down. It makes sense that someone who has already paid off 35% of their mortgage is far more likely to stay in their house and keep paying.
One last important note – credit scores are not created equal!
I bet you 10 to 1 that sooner or later, some doofus will post a comment below saying something like “I have a 880 credit score” or “I’m only 20 and my credit score is already above 800.”
Well FYI, most credit scores which are peddled to consumers these days are imitators to FICO and are drastically different. FICO runs 300 to 850. There are a ton of others out there, like VantageScore, that run 501 to 990. Then there are those which aim to “simulate” FICO and might do a poor job at that – I’ve heard them being off as much as 70 or 80 points.
Unfortunately if you want your true FICO score which is not an estimate, there are only a couple places where consumers can buy it. This MyFICO review will explain further.









I worked in loans for years, and if you have had a credit card, or any kind of line of credit for under 5 years you are considered “soft credit” and even if on paper it shows “700″ or whatever the lenders will automatically mark you to 620 for soft credit >5 years.
Great advice but last paragraph is not all true. i opened a college student credit card account when i was 18 by the time i was 19, i made my first purchase a Polaris rzrl 18k loan. had a 731 credit score. i am now almost 21, just financed a new Camaro as i have almost paid off my first big purchase and my score is a 758. hasn’t gone up a lot but im right on track to an 800+ in my early 20′s.
Hi Brandon just having a college student card and a loan isn’t enough to get to 800. Plus quality trumps quantity (by that I mean the quality of how you manage your accounts).
Good tips CreditCardGuru, following these guidelines does help to increase your credit score.
OK, trying to avoid sounding like the stereotype in that last paragraph, but I’m 20 and just hit a 750 (752, exactly) score (opened a CC the day I turned 18, but never paid an interest). What’s the best way to get to the 800+ club? The main thing holding me back now is the age of my accounts (I have three CC’s with limits of $3-5k each, but avg age is only 18 months). Also, I don’t have any installment loans, which I know will ding my score when I get a car loan here in a year or so. Best way to mitigate?
Thanks for the info! I had a few late payments on my mortgage (last late was May 2007). Can you tell me how long that will stay on my file? I have a score of 706 and just need to move it up to 720 to refinance
Any delinquency present on any credit file will clear out after 7 years, hard pull inquires take two years.
Is it true that multiple credit inquiries (say, if you’re shopping for a car and get to that stage w/ a few different dealerships) made within 30 days will be treated as one inquiry as far as credit scores are concerned?
It is really important to pay your credit balances on time to have a good credit score. Sometimes we tend to skip paying it and just pay for the minimum due amount which will result to a bigger debt.
Two and half years ago had unfortunately fallen on hard times. Had OK credit score/than unable to pay bills credit cards home, car, and everything up to 90 days late on some things.
Since than have all credit cards payed as agreed. Have total of five credit cards with two for 19 years. Pay all balance on credit each month keep at zero. WoW Wow I was at the bottom of credit just few years ago on my way to 800. Now that’s a story. Good luck. Score is everything.
I used to have credit score of 690 three years ago. I just checked it today and it is 810. Don’t worry you will be there soon. Charge your oldest CC every month and pay it off. Don’t pay any interest, you don’t need to, soon you will be in 700 range.
A score of 695 is not bad at all. You can get great credit cards with a score of 700 and up. This is just a suggestion, I suggest you do your own research, but if you are not going for a home mortgage/car loan in the near future I suggest you apply for a few credit cards.
It’s preferable to apply on the same day so they won’t see each other’s inquiries (but be careful, only apply for 1 bank at a time, like one from Citi, one from Chase etc..) In the short term your score will go down. But in the long run, as long as you use them every month (a little bit) and pay off the ENTIRE balance every month, you will start to see your score climb. This will happen slowly so be patient. And don’t be so hard on yourself, we all make stupid mistakes.
My score is 745 even though I had made some stupid mistakes, I used this method and it worked for me.
I’m 30 and unfortunately I was irresponsible in my early twenties and now I’m paying for it. I currently have a 695 score and I’m desperate to break into the 700′s. I guess I’m just going to have to wait a few more years until my bad credit history goes away. Its sad to think that being late by one day can prevent someone from buying a home or evening getting a job under some circumstances!