American Express Centurion

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Postby galambo » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:55 am

Centurion wrote:Hello,
can anybody help me getting a centrurion card?
i will pay for it!

thank you


why would anyone put you on a card that ultimately, if you don't pay, they will be responsible for? especially when they have a good credit rating to begin with?


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Postby bravo4 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:35 pm

Finally took some time to read this thread, just happened to get a subscription message (thanks Google! you probably put the others in the spam for me... and who knows what else... great...). Sorry all... but I can't help it when I get so busy just living the dream :D

@Galambo because some people in the world are just cool, no matter how uncool most people are :)

How I got mine was through a reply to a blog... you have to have good credit, I already have some money :money: (not a millionaire by any means! working on it tho! The Black Card certainly helps!). It cost me almost $10k (not just Amex's $7,500), but it is SO worth it for me because I travel a lot... I have gotten so much more value out of it then I pay. It also gives you instant credibility. I know folks are gonna flame me for this paragraph, but the right poeple recognize it. Everyone knows sales is about relationships. This is instant relationship builder for those in the know, even all you :shoot:haters :beat: out there. ;)

If you mention this thread specifically, he will know that I referred you and might be more likely to respond (you know rich people - I had to email this guy like a ton of times before he took me seriously)... if you're seriously interested, email icurme 'at' gmail 'dot' com - Pretty cool guy... it took a bit of getting to know eachother and stuff, but it worked out great! :cool:

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Postby Generallisimo » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:32 pm

I wouldn't add any unknown authorized used to my account if I were to ever have a Centurion (have no desire to, it'd be cool, but not something to aim for). If you read Amex's terms of agreement, you are responsible for everything an authorized users do and charge, even if they pay you 7.5k, they can easily make out like a bandit, go wild and spend like crazy and you won't be able to do shit about it you authorized them to use the card.

But hey, I have an idea now, mind adding me as an authorized user? ;)

Besides, relationship builder? What type of relationship are you building with people if they judge on the value of your card, even if we are talking about business here?

Not trying to flame here, I understand the benefits are cool and that's great, but I really don't believe it actually gives a salesman an edge. Besides, a real salesman can sell a showercurtain ring to anybody, anywhere and in any condition 8-).
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Postby bravo4 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:45 pm

Generallisimo wrote:... if I were to ever have a Centurion (have no desire to, it'd be cool, but not something to aim for).

But hey, I have an idea now, mind adding me as an authorized user? ;)


But I thought u had no desire to? :confused:
hopefully that's not hatin'

Generallisimo wrote:
Besides, relationship builder? What type of relationship are you building with people if they judge on the value of your card, even if we are talking about business here?
.


As they say, once you go black, you neva go back! LOL :rolleyes:
Seriously though, how many people have you ever met with one?
Of those people, any of them salesman?
IF you can ever find a salesman with one and he uses it in some way, shape or form in his biz, ask him if it has helped ;)

regarding the philosophical aspect of your question, I would say that would be thread crapping and a topic for another thread topic in perhaps even another forum or as comments to a blog... but I do hear what you're saying. Interesting.

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Postby Mogul of Pineapples » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:06 pm

Seriously though, how many people have you ever met with one?


In LA and OC I see people with the Centurion card all the time. I don't think it has much pull around here but flashing it in rural areas it would be beneficial for some occupations.
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Postby bravo4 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:22 pm

Mogul of Pineapples wrote:In LA and OC I see people with the Centurion card all the time. I don't think it has much pull around here but flashing it in rural areas it would be beneficial for some occupations.


I beg to differ: sold an expired card to a guy in OC and he flashes it as if it were his own somehow and said he gets tons of attention, especially from the opposite gender... he swears by it ;)

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Postby Keysmasher » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:51 pm

bravo4 wrote:I beg to differ: sold an expired card to a guy in OC and he flashes it as if it were his own somehow and said he gets tons of attention, especially from the opposite gender... he swears by it ;)


$1 for the expired centurion card is more than enough, anymore than that is simply outrageous. Is it even made out of titanium anymore? The black card has honestly lost its prestige since the user base is too diluted.

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Postby galambo » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:12 pm

Keysmasher wrote:$1 for the expired centurion card is more than enough, anymore than that is simply outrageous. Is it even made out of titanium anymore? The black card has honestly lost its prestige since the user base is too diluted.


gee i feel so diluted/dirty ;-)

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Postby bravo4 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:07 pm

Keysmasher wrote: Is it even made out of titanium anymore? The black card has honestly lost its prestige since the user base is too diluted.


Yes, it is made from Titanium.
No offense, but your question indicates your level of ignorance. So the popularity of the card has increased, the exclusivity has increased (it is even harder to qualify for now and is truly invite only), so how does that add up to lost prestige? It is still THE status symbol for people in the know, no one brags that they have any other card... so which card is better? What prestige has been lost? Are you hatin' on the card, jealous or otherwise?

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Postby Keysmasher » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:25 pm

bravo4 wrote:Yes, it is made from Titanium.
No offense, but your question indicates your level of ignorance. So the popularity of the card has increased, the exclusivity has increased (it is even harder to qualify for now and is truly invite only), so how does that add up to lost prestige? It is still THE status symbol for people in the know, no one brags that they have any other card... so which card is better? What prestige has been lost? Are you hatin' on the card, jealous or otherwise?


Okay mister "all high & mighty american express centurion/black card owner" since it is still made out of titanium, my offer of $1 for the expired card still stands. The card itself weighs out to about 12 grams (0.423287543... ounces) and the current price of Titanium per pound is $22.00 (high). Using that information, the face value of the card is approximately $0.582020371625 or 58 cents.

I am willing to give up 42 cents to help pay for the shipping because I need something new to open my mail with. If you are still interested you should send me a PM or something to work it all out.

It isn't hard to get to anymore, don't lie to yourself. Also you are about 5-6 years late on that "status symbol", the only reason people "wow" about the card now is because they can't believe you pay 2.5k/year + the 5k initiation fee to just show off the card.

Don't get me wrong, the benefits of the card (while not as good as they were a couple of years ago) would definitely be worth it to one who might travel and shop frequently, but to use it merely as some sort of "snob tool" at a $10-20 lunch to impress your buddies is simply dumb, to put it plainly.



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