EMV Updates for American Express

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EMV Updates for American Express

Postby websteth » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:52 pm

Has anyone heard any updates from American Express on the roll out of EMV cards? Traveling to England and France in the spring and would love to have my Platinum converted by then. All I got on the phone is that it's coming.
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Postby Reclusive46 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:53 am

Regarding here in the UK I wouldn't worry too much, all chip and pin machines (Manned ones anyway but supermarket self service ones tend too as well) have a swiper at the top. I had an emergency replacement card a few weeks back and thats not chipped and I didn't have any trouble using the card here. France on the otherhand is awkward but good luck using it anyway in France ,acceptance is aweful (Its good in the UK (Although some shops don't take it).
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Postby CC Deville » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:36 pm

All Amex has said is that they plan on rolling out some version of EMV "in the latter part of 2012." What most banks have been doing thus far is rolling it out to the higher end cards or they have gone through their records and offered EMV cards to the cardmembers that have most recently traveled abroad.

If I had to make an (un)educated guess, I would assume that Centurian cards will get it towards the end of the year and possibly some Platinum cardholders. I would also bet that by early next year most banks will begin offering optional EMV (chip + signature unfortunately) cards to anybody that asks-similar to what BofA is now doing. And as Reclusive said, you really shouldn't have too much trouble using your Amex with mag stripe....Most of the places in Europe that do accept Amex only do so because of American tourists so they will still gladly accept your ancient Amex card at hotels, car rentals, airlines and restaurants in touristy areas. Unmanned kiosks and merchants off the beaten path, good luck. And Chip + Signature will do little to alleviate that. We really do need Chip + PIN or they need to make that optional for overseas travel. Sometimes it really pisses me off how different the US has to be about everything.

I expect that we are going to start seeing more EMV cards beginning in January 2013 and most banks will start to reissue EMV cards in 2013 and 2014 standard in advance of the October 2015 mandate.

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Postby djrez4 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:43 pm

Until recently, Europe got the best cars, too - even from Ford.

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Postby trumpet-205 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:27 pm

US never gets the best stuff first hand, and tends to be the last to get them.

Some examples,

* Car wise, Europe gets diesel, South America gets CNG, and we are mostly stuck with gasoline.

* Card wise rest of the world gets EMV (chip and PIN for European countries) and we are stuck with magnetic strip still.

* Video game wise Japan gets the best video game library ever since 1983 video game crash (big mess from US companies).

There is more to the list but you get the idea.
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Postby CC Deville » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:16 pm

trumpet-205 wrote:US never gets the best stuff first hand, and tends to be the last to get them.

Some examples,

* Car wise, Europe gets diesel, South America gets CNG, and we are mostly stuck with gasoline.

* Card wise rest of the world gets EMV (chip and PIN for European countries) and we are stuck with magnetic strip still.

* Video game wise Japan gets the best video game library ever since 1983 video game crash (big mess from US companies).

There is more to the list but you get the idea.


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But otherwise, we do live in one of the greatest countries on earth. Could be worse, we could be in Syria. Could be anywhere in Africa etc. etc.

I just feel that if the rest of the world has adopted a new payment standard, the US should as well.

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Postby websteth » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:44 pm

Thanks for all the great advice and input everyone. I guess I'll cross my fingers and hope my platinum is updated before I leave but it sounds like I'll be fine in the UK at least.
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Postby jlam572 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:00 pm

trumpet-205 wrote:US never gets the best stuff first hand, and tends to be the last to get them.

Some examples,

* Car wise, Europe gets diesel, South America gets CNG, and we are mostly stuck with gasoline.

* Card wise rest of the world gets EMV (chip and PIN for European countries) and we are stuck with magnetic strip still.

* Video game wise Japan gets the best video game library ever since 1983 video game crash (big mess from US companies).

There is more to the list but you get the idea.


Europe also gets the best performing cars too. Try and get a zonda here in the US and see what happens. Were so far behind, we dont even have nudity on tv. SMH
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Postby hematino » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:40 am

trumpet-205 wrote:US never gets the best stuff first hand, and tends to be the last to get them.

Some examples,

* Car wise, Europe gets diesel, South America gets CNG, and we are mostly stuck with gasoline.

* Card wise rest of the world gets EMV (chip and PIN for European countries) and we are stuck with magnetic strip still.

* Video game wise Japan gets the best video game library ever since 1983 video game crash (big mess from US companies).
There is more to the list but you get the idea.


I collect consoles and games, and this is completely true. Not to get off on a tangent, but its really frustrating when some of the cooler and unique ideas for games never made it over here while Japan and/or Europe got them. Although the European market gets shafted sometimes too.
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Postby Reclusive46 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:44 am

websteth wrote:Thanks for all the great advice and input everyone. I guess I'll cross my fingers and hope my platinum is updated before I leave but it sounds like I'll be fine in the UK at least.


Just a tip with independent restaurants in the UK. They tend to have a habit of saying they don't take it but when its the only card you have it some how magically works :P They tend not want to pay the fees but just make it clear its the only card you have.
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