How to get AmEx Black Card?

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Postby cdogg » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:54 am

AMEXGoldfan wrote:I have an Amercian Express online savings account and was wondering if someone had enough money in that account, would that trigger an invite for an AMEX Black Centurion card? Not that I have that concern yet, but what if you had $5-$10 million in an account with them? IMHO, it seems plausible. What do you think?


it probably will. but if you have that much money, why you want to put it in the amex saving account. people who has over 10 mm in cash, they will put in the large institution or their private bank or invest in hedge fund with good return. but i do see your point.

regarding previous post, you will be surprised that some of wealthy people they use debit card more often than credit card, why, they can, and they have enough cash.

imagine this (not fiction, but not pointing to anyone). if you make $150 million a year, and have about $20 million in cash of all your accounts. so do you really care about your credit score? no, you have enough to buy whatever you want to buy. all you are care about now is is next year will i make my next billion? that is the difference between that 0.001% and us
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Postby Crashem » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:31 pm

I have a solution. Contact me via pm. It is a little complicated. I guess AMEX policy in last couple of years of not issuing anymore black AMEX to individuals is working if super wealthy starting to want card again.
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Postby rohnin » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:39 pm

can you help me get an invitation? i'm seriously interested

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Postby SteveT » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:53 pm

cdogg wrote:I am new to this forum, but not new to the private banking. I have read some questions or curiosity about how to get an American Express black card or even JPM Palladium card. Here are some stories i want to share with everyone from my experience as being a personal financial guy for a billionaire.

My client is B and very wealth but very private. Anyway, he is wealthy enough that he has spent an average $300k a month just on household spending. I won't go into details since it is confidential. But one day, I was asked to get him AMEX Black Card. I asked why all of sudden he wants this card (he never cares), find out that his wife saw another guy's wife has one at a dinner, she just wants one in her purse.

I was given a week to get one. I know it is invitation only. By the way, my client has accounts with all major investment banks (GS, JPM, UBS, etc). so i called AMEX NY head office directly, ask for VP in charge of Black card. Finally I spoke to this lady, she just kept saying that it is invitation only, so i said why don't you google his name right now. didn't work. I was pissed.

Instead, i called his private banker in UK (SG Hambros), through her, the banker contacted AMEX europe office to get card for him within a week. Again my client also has palladium card as well, he uses that card more than AMEX. Actually i got it for him through JPM private banking side, no question asked since he has very long history with JPMorgan. currently he has like 3.5 million points on the card.

So for really wealthy people, they really don't care about these cards. They can pay anything in cash. A lot of times, their wives are the ones who want it in their purse.

Regarding the benefits, they don't care the airline clubs, since they charter the jet on all his trips.


Getting a UK or European Centurion is alot easier, especially if its a ICC card. Partner banks have a direct route to Amex.

If your client has an account with GS, they should be able to arrange for a Centurion. GS has a relationship with Amex. Referrals are one way, if not the only way, to get a US Centurion Card.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:10 am

to those that want one, why not just be upfront with Amex and let them know you want one. IF you qualify, the card will be on it's way. If you do not, it really doesn't matter who you talk to. I mean it may help but it all boils down to your relationship with Amex. Yours alone.
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Postby Oliver » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:16 am

Please read first post.

Amex would also be looking at the person's known "long" on-going credit record and payment history, not merely immediate superficial expressions of wealth.

With a Centurion Card, membership is typically established via an excellent credit rating and highly favourable Bank opinion, "known to Amex", plus usually a few years of high expenditure and prompt payment on a Platinum card. Consistently and stability are more important than being seen to hiring a jet, rather than flying business class.

A guy in a nearby by street to me had the appearances of a big spender, and, in fact, was a big spender. Sixty-five dollars in assets. Catch was he accrued eighty million dollars in debt. (reported in the paper). Hopefully, Amex were too smart to take him on.

Someone who would make such high demands (a Centurion card within the week) from a relationship manger or executive assistant would seem better suited for a role in the Devil Wears Prada, than in the real business world, where this type can be find few friends if things go bad.

p.s. My mail received from Centurion states our Australian fees are about to increase to 5K pa. That is okay, if they keep up with there excellent service.

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Postby SteveT » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:04 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:to those that want one, why not just be upfront with Amex and let them know you want one. IF you qualify, the card will be on it's way. If you do not, it really doesn't matter who you talk to. I mean it may help but it all boils down to your relationship with Amex. Yours alone.


Im sure most of the folks have called in and requested an invite.

Problem is noone knows what the requirements are now and we all know there are "backdoor" ways of getting invite, just need to figure what they are.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:41 pm

I'm sure there are 'backdoor' ways to get one and if they exist great. The flip side risk to his is Amex I'm sure would know about them too. If it's published here in forums I'm sure Amex is aware. The risk one runs going thru the back door is if Amex catches wind.... what does that do to your account? Will you be flagged as a backdoor member? Will it mean greater scrutiny as it was not officially sanctioned? Will it mean IF Amex wants to for whatever reason reduce the membership levels all the backdoor ones go first?

Hey all the power to those with the 'means' to get things however and whatever way. Just saying... getting 'busted' would be too much of an embarrassment IMO.
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Postby SteveT » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:00 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:I'm sure there are 'backdoor' ways to get one and if they exist great. The flip side risk to his is Amex I'm sure would know about them too. If it's published here in forums I'm sure Amex is aware. The risk one runs going thru the back door is if Amex catches wind.... what does that do to your account? Will you be flagged as a backdoor member? Will it mean greater scrutiny as it was not officially sanctioned? Will it mean IF Amex wants to for whatever reason reduce the membership levels all the backdoor ones go first?

Hey all the power to those with the 'means' to get things however and whatever way. Just saying... getting 'busted' would be too much of an embarrassment IMO.


What I meant by "backdoor" was alternative ways to get a Centurion Card, such as referrals via banking relationships or Amex Marketing Departments. Other then the occasional invites those would seem like the only way to obtain a US Centurion Card.

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Postby Oliver » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:58 pm

Oliver Typos: Consistency nor Consistently; Sixty five million dollars. (Jet lagged).



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