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American Express smart chip and PIN cards?

Postby Cyberius » Tue May 08, 2012 9:27 am

Does anybody know how to get an Amex with the smart card chip in the USA? It would be nice to have when traveling overseas; they obviously give them out in foreign markets.

I wonder if it would be possible to call and request a card with the chip and PIN?


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Postby CC Deville » Tue May 08, 2012 4:03 pm

Cyberius wrote:Does anybody know how to get an Amex with the smart card chip in the USA? It would be nice to have when traveling overseas; they obviously give them out in foreign markets.

I wonder if it would be possible to call and request a card with the chip and PIN?


As far as I know, AMEX does not currently offer EMV for US customers. Even cardmembers paying $5,000 a year for Centurian don't have the EMV chip. AMEX from what I have read is not fond of EMV (even though they co-own EMVco with Visa, MasterCard and JCB). If you ask anybody at AMEX, on their Twitter or Facebook accounts they snap back stating that they have no plans on rolling out EMV in the US anytime soon and that you should not have any trouble using their cards abroad.

It really ticks me off that we don't have EMV here in the US. Sure, we are a superpower (lone superpower?) but I feel if the rest of the world has adopted a standard of payments then we should as well. It is starting to happen but at a snails pace and AMEX is the ONLY network that has not annouced plans for EMV migration. Even Discover has announced plans!

Stepping off my soapbox. But to answer your question, no. AMEX does not even offer one to their highest spenders here in the US. Never hurts to call them and let them know that you would like to have one. If enough people complain they will have to start getting serious about it. Ironic thing is that back in 1999 the Blue card had a "Smart Chip" standard. It didn't work the way EMV works, but they had it back then.

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Postby DavidNY » Tue May 08, 2012 5:52 pm

That old amex 'smart chip' worked in tandem with a smart chip reader plugged into a user's computer to make online shopping 'safe'.

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Postby FastSRT8 » Tue May 08, 2012 6:16 pm

I for one am NOT fond of the chips. The more 'secure' they make these things, the more ID theft we seem to have.

I like my cards the 'old fashioned' way. Swipe and sign.

Actually happy my Centurion card is NOT butchered with the chip thing.
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Postby CC Deville » Tue May 08, 2012 6:27 pm

FastSRT8 wrote:I for one am NOT fond of the chips. The more 'secure' they make these things, the more ID theft we seem to have.

I like my cards the 'old fashioned' way. Swipe and sign.

Actually happy my Centurion card is NOT butchered with the chip thing.


I hear the AMEX chips up there in Canada were/are having issues being accepted. From what I understand the card readers were not properly coded for AMEX.

I like the extra security of Chip + PIN. It's kind of hot. Id say in 2013-2014 we will start having more Chip cards here in the US.

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Postby CC Deville » Tue May 08, 2012 6:28 pm

DavidNY wrote:That old amex 'smart chip' worked in tandem with a smart chip reader plugged into a user's computer to make online shopping 'safe'.


Yup. I had an old Fleet Visa with the Smart chip. They offered (for a cost) a reader to plug into your USB port for online shopping. Target Visa also used to have a chip that allowed people to download coupons from a kiosk at the store. I believe Providian even offered one back in the early 2000s.

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Postby Cyberius » Tue May 08, 2012 6:53 pm

Cool - thanks for the replies everyone!

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Postby DavidNY » Tue May 08, 2012 7:26 pm

I had a Fleet Visa too, until BofA took over. Why did you have a Fleet card? Were you living in the Northeast US?

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Postby amexguy321 » Tue May 08, 2012 7:55 pm

i have contacted them regardning my zync card... they said they are maybe considering them for the future and thanked me for my inquiry. long story short... no

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Postby JCarter » Tue May 08, 2012 8:15 pm

CC Deville wrote:As far as I know, AMEX does not currently offer EMV for US customers. Even cardmembers paying $5,000 a year for Centurian don't have the EMV chip. AMEX from what I have read is not fond of EMV (even though they co-own EMVco with Visa, MasterCard and JCB). If you ask anybody at AMEX, on their Twitter or Facebook accounts they snap back stating that they have no plans on rolling out EMV in the US anytime soon and that you should not have any trouble using their cards abroad.

It really ticks me off that we don't have EMV here in the US. Sure, we are a superpower (lone superpower?) but I feel if the rest of the world has adopted a standard of payments then we should as well. It is starting to happen but at a snails pace and AMEX is the ONLY network that has not annouced plans for EMV migration. Even Discover has announced plans!

Stepping off my soapbox. But to answer your question, no. AMEX does not even offer one to their highest spenders here in the US. Never hurts to call them and let them know that you would like to have one. If enough people complain they will have to start getting serious about it. Ironic thing is that back in 1999 the Blue card had a "Smart Chip" standard. It didn't work the way EMV works, but they had it back then.


Actually, you can request an ICC (Dollar or Euro) with the chip if you're a frequent foreign traveler.



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