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No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:33 pm

Previously, someone with an Amex card other than a Centurion or Platinum could buy a day pass to a Centurion Lounge for $50. Those passes are no longer being sold.

Centurion gets 2 guests OR immediate family (spouse and kids under 18).

Platinum gets 2 guests (the option for a large immediate family ended around March 2017).

Both Platinum and Centurion members can buy passes for additional guests for $50 each.

I don't think anything is changing for Plat/Cent customers, but this is bad for anyone with a lower-tier card who would occasionally buy a day pass.


I'll be at the SFO Cent on Oct 24. It will probably just be a quick stop, but if anyone is going through T3 that day with a long layover and the schedules fit, I can guest you in.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby AMEXPlatino86 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:40 pm

That's actually good to hear. I hope that this will ease the congestion at the one near mea at LGA. That's my haven when I have to travel. I actually didn't know that the lower-tier cards could buy day passes. I just assumed that everyone in there were either Platinums or Centurions.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:23 pm

AMEXPlatino86 wrote:That's actually good to hear. I hope that this will ease the congestion at the one near mea at LGA. That's my haven when I have to travel. I actually didn't know that the lower-tier cards could buy day passes. I just assumed that everyone in there were either Platinums or Centurions.

I don't see the LGA Cent getting any less crowded. Imagine a hypothetical person who would previously buy that day pass (but will no longer be there):

1. He knows about the $50 option.
2. He travels somewhat, but not enough to justify a Plat/Cent.
3. He isn't traveling with someone with a Plat/Cent.
4. He finds paying $50 for a pre-TSA lounge preferable to eating $50 of food at a restaurant by his gate...even during times of peak congestion, when security lines are long and lounges are crowded.

Consider how few people that describes, and consider how few day passes they buy a year.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby AMEXPlatino86 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 am

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:
AMEXPlatino86 wrote:That's actually good to hear. I hope that this will ease the congestion at the one near mea at LGA. That's my haven when I have to travel. I actually didn't know that the lower-tier cards could buy day passes. I just assumed that everyone in there were either Platinums or Centurions.

I don't see the LGA Cent getting any less crowded. Imagine a hypothetical person who would previously buy that day pass (but will no longer be there):

1. He knows about the $50 option.
2. He travels somewhat, but not enough to justify a Plat/Cent.
3. He isn't traveling with someone with a Plat/Cent.
4. He finds paying $50 for a pre-TSA lounge preferable to eating $50 of food at a restaurant by his gate...even during times of peak congestion, when security lines are long and lounges are crowded.

Consider how few people that describes, and consider how few day passes they buy a year.



Yeah I know that it wouldn't 100% solve the issue but baby steps. Why should I have to pay (now) $550 for a card that gives me access to a lounge albeit unlimited while someone else who pays a lesser annual fee pay $50 for the same benefits and in the end still come in with the better end of the deal? Hope that makes sense.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:07 pm

AMEXPlatino86 wrote:Yeah I know that it wouldn't 100% solve the issue but baby steps. Why should I have to pay (now) $550 for a card that gives me access to a lounge albeit unlimited while someone else who pays a lesser annual fee pay $50 for the same benefits and in the end still come in with the better end of the deal? Hope that makes sense.

Certainly baby steps.

There's a lot of debate on FT. Most people agree that getting rid of the lower-tier day passes is a good place to start...but also agree it won't do much.

The bigger dispute is between people who use it frequently with no guests and people who use it rarely but want a few free guests when they do.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby mountaindewvoltage » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:44 am

AMEXPlatino86 wrote:That's actually good to hear. I hope that this will ease the congestion at the one near mea at LGA. That's my haven when I have to travel. I actually didn't know that the lower-tier cards could buy day passes. I just assumed that everyone in there were either Platinums or Centurions.


LGA is a dump, so I'm not sure why you'd choose to fly there for a layover anyways.

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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby AMEXPlatino86 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:14 am

mountaindewvoltage wrote:
AMEXPlatino86 wrote:That's actually good to hear. I hope that this will ease the congestion at the one near mea at LGA. That's my haven when I have to travel. I actually didn't know that the lower-tier cards could buy day passes. I just assumed that everyone in there were either Platinums or Centurions.


LGA is a dump, so I'm not sure why you'd choose to fly there for a layover anyways.


Though everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the reason I fly out of LGA is because I'm from NY (in the city itself) and that is the airport closest to me. It is convenient for my domestic flight and if I need a backup flight or international flight then I'll go to JFK.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:57 pm

AMEXPlatino86 wrote:Though everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the reason I fly out of LGA is because I'm from NY (in the city itself) and that is the airport closest to me. It is convenient for my domestic flight and if I need a backup flight or international flight then I'll go to JFK.

I see you have a Delta Gold Amex, and assume you primarily fly Delta...

You've probably already been there, but JFK T4 has a very nice SkyClub for LAX/SFO/SEA/international flights.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby AMEXPlatino86 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:12 am

CarefulBuilder14 wrote:
AMEXPlatino86 wrote:Though everyone is entitled to their own opinion, the reason I fly out of LGA is because I'm from NY (in the city itself) and that is the airport closest to me. It is convenient for my domestic flight and if I need a backup flight or international flight then I'll go to JFK.

I see you have a Delta Gold Amex, and assume you primarily fly Delta...

You've probably already been there, but JFK T4 has a very nice SkyClub for LAX/SFO/SEA/international flights.


Actually I can say I've never been to terminal 4. Out of all the flights I've had at JFK(domestic and international) they've shipped me out of Terminal 1. So most of the time I use my Priority Pass at the Korean Air lounge right after the security checkpoint.
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Re: No Cent passes for lower-tier Amexes

Postby CarefulBuilder14 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:51 pm

Everyone on FT has a self-serving solution that they think is perfectly fair.

There have been reports of vague staff comments that if there are changes, frequent solo visitors (as in once a week) would suffer more than infrequent visitors with guests. The idea would be to encourage them to use other lounges. Of course, these comments go back about two years, and frequent solo visitors haven't been hit with a cap yet.

Also possible: Platinum getting only 1 free guest.

Crowding isn't always so bad, and the complaints seem to be more from business travelers who want to treat lounges at major international airports as their lawns/country clubs...and not from families happy to be out of the general terminal. So it's entirely possible we won't have any changes soon at all.
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